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This is my humble request to HH Narayana Maharaja

dear Narayana Maharaja
Please accept my humble obaisences
All glories to Srila Prabupada
Today I have become very sad because some of your initiated disciples are taking drugs and having illicit sex, and am even proud of it ,and say I follow "Gurudev", why do you not ask those who take initiation from you to give up 4 kinds of sins Illicit sex ,gambling,meat eating and drugs ?

I tried to help one devotee Vasudeva who goes to strippers(prostitute) and claims he is your disciple ,he eats meat and sells it.
One time he even brought a prostitute to ISKCON Hartford

He claims I am am offender to you because I teach him to give up such sins.
I humbly suggest you give up your preaching in the west and retire to Mathura and do your bhajan and prepare for going back to Krsna.You health is also not good and you are in old age, and many of your disciples are not properly honoring you by even following such basic things.
I have received much good siksa from you in the past and will not forget that, and you gave me much blessings and praised my devotional service,and encouraged me.
I am tired of fighting with your neophyte disciples.What is the use of millions of useless disciples. Better to even have one good disciple.You disciples now hate ISKCON and Srila Prabupada so what use is your preaching?Maharaja please retire and do nirjana bhajan,I know you can chant 192 rounds daily, if you want too.Please leave your desire for name and fame, because these disciples are not giving up their sins so there is no need to preach to them.
your servant
Payonidhi das
Srila Prabhupadas program was to strictly chant 64 rounds and distribute his books ,but you are interfering in Srila Prabupadas mission and your followers are mostly very neophyte and very proud and offensive, your preaching is useless if they do not give up these 4 sins, so either you tell them to stop this or go to Mathura please.You will not chastise such behavior,why?If you teach manjari bhava in public and some of your disciples eat meat go to prostitutes etc you should reject them ,why will you not do so.If you do not stop these things people will remember you as a sahajiya because your disciples failed to follow even basic things.
Why are you not enforcing 64 rounds on your disciples many do not even chant, you please state today that those who are your disciples should give up 4 illicit sins, cant one lakh daily and read Srimad Bhagavatam and give up envy against Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON
Those who refuse to chant 1 lakh and follow no meateating ,gambling, illicit sex, and drugs should be rejected
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabupada did not give diksa or at least Brahmin diksa to those who could not chant one lakh,why are you giving cheap diksas? One of your disciples also told me once in Vrindavan he had had illict sex in the holy dham during Kartika,you think such persons are fit to hear about the glories of Sri Radha?

Please advise your disciples like this:


PAMHO
AGSTP
Do you want to be free from maya? Then please chant minumum 64 rounds daily as ordered by Lord Gauranga:
Lord Gaurānga is calling, "Wake up, sleeping souls! Wake up, sleeping souls! How long will you sleep in the lap of the witch called Māyā?
http://nimaipandit.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gbc-proposal-to-chant-64
pranams and all glories to your service

1)
jīv jāgo, jīv jāgo, gauracānda bole
kota nidrā jāo māyā-piśācīra kole

(2)
bhajibo boliyā ese saḿsāra-bhitare
bhuliyā rohile tumi avidyāra bhare

(3)
tomāre loite āmi hoinu avatāra
āmi binā bandhu āra ke āche tomāra

(4)
enechi auṣadhi māyā nāśibāro lāgi'
hari-nāma mahā-mantra lao tumi māgi'

(5)
bhakativinoda prabhu-caraṇe pariyā
sei hari-nāma-mantra loilo māgiyā

TRANSLATION
1) Lord Gaurānga is calling, "Wake up, sleeping souls! Wake up, sleeping souls! How long will you sleep in the lap of the witch called Māyā?

2) You have forgotten the way of devotional service and are lost in the world of birth and death.

3) I have descended just to save you; other than Myself you have no friend in this world.

4) I have brought the medicine that will wipe out the disease of illusion from which you are suffering. Take this mahā-mantra-Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/HareRāma, Hare Rāma Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare."

5) Śrīla Bhaktivinoda Thākura says: "I fall at the Lord's feet, having taken this mahā-mantra."

This Lord Gaurangas humble wish and plea to daily chant 64 rounds minimum, Srila Prabhupada has stated it can be done in 5 hours.

From Prema-vilasa Chapter 17: Shrila Narottama to Shrila Kaviraja on the direct process to achieve love of Krishna:

prabhura achaye sankhya tina laksha nama;
eka laksha bhaktagane kaila kripa dana.

"Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu standard was to chant 3,00,000 names everyday. But He very mercifully awarded His devotees the process of chanting a minimum of 1,00,000 names of Krishna daily.

shri rupa kaila laksha granthera varnana;
tathapiha karila laksha nama grahana.

"Shrila Rupa Goswami has explained and quoted from over 100,000 different scriptures. Even though he was such a great scholar and devotee he himself chanted 100,000 Holy Names daily.

dasa gosvamira ache laksha pramana;
ei mata sarva bhakta kare harinama.

"Shrila Raghunatha dasa Goswami also rigidly followed the instructions of Lord Gauranga by chanting 100,000 names daily. In this way all the devotees chanted the Holy Names of the Lord daily without exception.

gauranga shrimukhe rupe kahila vaishnave;
laksha nama sankhya kari avasya karibe.

"Lord Gauranga gave the following instructions to all the Vaishnavas Himself and also through Shrila Rupa Goswami: Please compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna daily
your servant
Payonidhi das

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Comment by Paramananda das on October 8, 2010 at 9:04am
still though I give such nice advise they are jealous:"The Material World Means Politics,
Jealousy, Diplomacy, Envy"
73/07/07 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.1
listen
Take a test
Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

dhrtarastra uvaca
dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre
samaveta yuyutsavah
mamakah pandavas caiva
kim akurvata sanjaya
[Bg. 1.1]

Prabhupada: (during chanting of sloka) Now, in your leisure hour you will try to repeat and get by heart some of the slokas. That will be very nice. Go on.

Pradyumna: (after synonyms) "Translation: Dhrtarastra said: O Sanjaya, after assembling in the place of pilgrimage at Kuruksetra, what did my sons and the sons of Pandu do, being desirous to fight?"

Prabhupada: So the history is that same family, there was dispute who would occupy the throne. Dhrtarastra and, actually he was the eldest son of the king, and next was Pandu. So every country the law of primogeniture, what is called? The eldest child... In your country even the eldest child is a girl, she also occupies the throne. Just like present Queen Elizabeth. Formerly there was Queen Victoria; before that, another Elizabeth. But in India woman has no such right. Woman is never given any responsible post. That is the opinion of the greatest politician in the history of the world, Canakya Pandita. According to his opinion, visvaso naiva kartavyah strisu raja-kulesu ca. He has given his explicit opinion that "You cannot trust with any responsible post or any responsibility with a woman and politician." Those who are diplomat, politician, you cannot trust them.

So the general regulation is that woman should remain under the protection of husband, er, father, husband and children. Just like these Pandus, their mother, Kunti, she was very, very qualified lady. But still, after the death of her husband, she always remained with the sons. The sons are going to the forest; the mother is also going. Also the wife is also going, Draupadi. This was the... So two parties... Dhrtarastra was the eldest son, but he was blind, bodily defect. Therefore he was not awarded the throne. His next brother, Pandu, he was offered the throne, but he died very early age, a young man. When these Pandus, the five sons, Yudhisthira Maharaja, at at that time not Maharaja, Yudhisthira, Bhima, Arjuna, Nakula, Sahadeva, they were very small children, so they were taken care of by Dhrtarastra and other elderly family... Bhismadeva. He was the grandfather of the Pandavas. He was the elder uncle of Dhrtarastra. Bhisma was elder brother of Dhrtarastra's father. He was so old. But he was... Actually, the kingdom belonged to Bhisma, but he remained a brahmacari, he did not marry. There was no issue of Bhismadeva. Therefore his nephews, Dhrtarastra and Pandu, they were inheritor.

Now, after the death of Pandu, there was conspiracy. Dhrtarastra wanted that "Actually, this is my kingdom. Now, somehow or other, I could not get it. Now my brother is dead. So if I do not inherit, why not my sons.?" This was the politics. Politics are always there, and enviousness, jealousy. This is the nature of this material world. You cannot avoid it. Spiritual world means just the opposite. There is no politics. There is no jealousy. There is no enviousness. That is spiritual world. And material world means politics, jealousy, diplomacy, enviousness, so many things. This is material world. So even in the heavenly planets, these things are there, politics. Even in animal kingdom, these politics are there. This is the nature. Matsarata. Matsarata means enviousness. One man is envious of another man. It doesn't matter, even they are brothers or family members. Here the family members, Dhrtarastra and Pandu, two brothers, their sons, they were family members, but the enviousness...

So the Krsna consciousness movement is not for the persons who are envious. Envious. It is a movement to train people how to become not envious. It is very first-class scientific movement, yes. Not to become envious. Therefore Srimad-Bhagavatam in the beginning introduces, dharmah projjhita-kaitavo atra [SB 1.1.2]. In this Srimad-Bhagavatam, dharma, religious principles, cheating type of religious principle is completely eradicated, thrown away, projjhita. They are kicked out, projjhita. Just like you collect all the dirty things from the room, sweeping and then kick out, don't keep it within the room. Similarly, cheating type of religious system -- kicked out. It is not such religion, "this religion," "that religion." Any religion system, if there is jealousy, that is not religion. Jealousy means... We should understand jealousy, what is jealousy. Jealousy means that you are rightful owner of something; I won't allow you to take it. This is jealousy. This is jealousy. Jealousy, try to understand. Suppose you are rightful owner of something, and I am trying that "You don't own it. I shall own it. Or somebody own it. I shall not allow it." This is jealousy.

So what is the rightful ownership of the living entity? That is to be understood. Birthright, what is called birthright. Just like everyone has got right to live under the protection of the government, everyone. That is good government. Government should give security of life and property. That is government. Not only for the human being, but even for the ant. This is government. Not that I give protection to my brother, and not to others. That is not... Just like Pariksit Maharaja, he was giving protection to the animals also. When he was on his tour, as soon as he saw that a black man was trying to kill one cow, oh, immediately he took his sword, "Who are you? You are trying to kill?"

So this is good government. Unless the government is equal to everyone... Just like God is equal to everyone. The king or the government must be representative of God. Therefore, according to Vedic civilization, king is offered as good respect as to the Supreme Personality of Godhead. King is called nara-deva, nara-deva. That means "God in human form." King is given... Why? Because he acts as the representative of God. He cannot be jealous to any living entity, at least, born in his kingdom. That is called praja. Praja means one who has taken birth, or, in other words, national, national. So that was the duty.

So formerly, when there was fight between two kings, it is on the principle that who is giving good protection to the citizens, not for personal profit. Who is able to give good protection, life, security for life and property, he should become king. So these persons, this Dhrtarastra and his sons, they were jealous. How they could give protection to the citizens? They are themselves jealous. Just like nowadays, all these politicians, they are jealous. They cannot give any protection to the citizens. They are simply interested with their party politics. They have no time even to think how to give nice protection to the citizens so that they may feel happy always that "We have got good government. There is no cause of anxiety. We have got sufficient food, sufficient protection, sufficient opulence, everything sufficient." That is good government.

So here, Dhrtarastra, he is jealous. He cannot give any good government. Krsna knew it. Krsna sent a messenger, Akrura. You have read in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Before this Battle of Kuruksetra from Dvaraka, He sent his uncle Akrura: "Just go to Hastinapura, New Delhi, and see what is the situation." So Akrura understood that Dhrtarastra was planning something. So he talked with him that "Why you are implicated in such planning? Krsna does not want it." Although Dhrtarastra knew that Krsna was the Supreme Personality of Godhead... So Dhrtarastra said that "I know that what I am planning, that is not good. I know Krsna -- the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And He has requested me. But I tell you frankly, I cannot do without it. So when Krsna will be pleased upon me, I may be."

So this is the position of the materialistic person. A materialistic person knows that he is sinful. A materialistic person knows that whatever he is doing is wrong, but he cannot check. Just like the thief. A thief knows that if he commits stealing, he will be arrested, he will be punished. He knows. Because he heard from lawbooks, from other sources, and he has also seen that a thief is arrested and he is taken by the police for being punished. So we have got two kinds of experiences: by hearing and by seeing directly. In Bengali it is called, dekha-suna. In India it is called. The two kinds of experience: one by seeing, practically experiencing, hand to hand; another by hearing. So one who is intelligent, he gets his experience simply by hearing from the right source. That is nice.

So our process is that we are getting experience about the perfect knowledge, the destination of life, simply by hearing from Krsna. So we are the most intelligent person. It is not possible to experience directly, but if one has got intelligence, then simply by hearing and considering and thinking over it, he gets the experience. So those who are very sinful, they get experience by hearing and by direct, directly seeing also; still, they cannot check from sinful activities. So Dhrtarastra, Dhrtarastra, by his sinful activities he became so much fallen that he did not hear anybody's advice, Vidura's advice, Bhisma's advice, that "Don't plan like this. They are rightful owners. The Pandavas, they are rightful owners. They are minor, but don't try to cheat them." But Dhrtarastra was...

So when the planning was complete and the warfield was set up at dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre [Bg. 1.1]. Dharma-ksetre means, kuru-ksetre, that place is a pilgrimage. People still go to observe religious ritualistic performances. And in the Vedas there is injunction, kuru-ksetre dharmam acaret: "If you want to perform some ritualistic ceremonies, religious, then go to Kuruksetra." So Kuruksetra is a dharma-ksetra. It is a not fictitious thing, just like rascal commentators, so-called, they say, "Kuruksetra means this body." It is not that. As it is. Try to understand Bhagavad-gita as it is. Kuruksetra, dharma-ksetra. It is a place of religion. And especially when Krsna was present there, it is already. Why this house? Before our occupation, why this house was an ordinary house? Now it is temple. It is dharma-ksetra, it is a religious place. Why? Because Krsna is there. Krsna is there. So either you take Kuruksetra, ordinary place. But because in the battlefield Krsna was there directing Arjuna. So it is already dharma-ksetra.

So formerly people were religiously trained up. So they could not speak lies in a dharma-ksetra. That is still the practice. Just like in the western world, the Christians go to the church, they admit, confession, "Yes, I have done it." But that has become a formality. But actually, one should admit in religious place that "Yes, I have done this." But that does not mean you admit and again do it. No. You admit once, then you are excused. But don't do it again.

So here Dhrtarastra says, samaveta yuyutsavah [Bg. 1.1]. "All these people, my sons, mamakah..." Mamakah. That means "my sons," and pandava, "my brother Pandu's sons." Samaveta, "they assembled." What is the purpose? The purpose is yuyutsavah. This word yuyutsu is still used in Japan. Perhaps you know, yuyutsa, fighting. So yuyutsu, those who are desirous of fighting. Now, both the parties were desiring to fight, and they assembled. Why he is asking question, kim akurvata: "What did they do"? Because he was little doubtful that "These boys, after being assembled in dharma-ksetra kuru-kse..., they might have changed their ideas. They might have settled up." Actually, the sons of Dhrtarastra might have admitted, "Yes, Pandavas, you are actually the owner. What is the use of unnecessarily fighting?" So he was very much anxious whether they had changed their decision. Therefore he is asking. Otherwise there was no question of asking, kim akurvata. He... Just like if you are given food, if I ask somebody that "Such and such gentleman was served with nice dishes. Then what did he do?" This is foolish question. He would eat. That's all. (laughter) What is the question of "What did he do?" Similarly, when it is already settled up that they were to fight, there was no such question as kim akurvata, "What did they do?" But he asked this question because he was doubtful whether they had changed their opinion.

Kim akurvata sanjaya [Bg. 1.1]. He was asking his secretary. He was blind man. He was always conducted by his secretary Sanjaya, a very faithful secretary. And he is explaining the Bhagavad-gita by experiencing, by television within the heart. That art is not yet developed. You have got television through machine, but there is another television -- you can see within your heart everything, what is going on outside. So that television was known to... That will be explained by Sanjaya, that by the grace of Vyasadeva, he learned this televisioning, and he was sitting with his master within the room and he was actually seeing how the fighting is going on. And he was explaining. This is the basic principle of Bhagavad-gita, I mean, the basic platform. So let us discuss gradually, one after an... Thank you very much.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 1.1 -- London, July 7, 1973
Comment by Paramananda das on October 8, 2010 at 10:21pm
Jan 29, USA (SUN) — Dear Swamiji, All Glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga.
You are not a member of ISKCON. Nor are you a member of BBT. And the same applies to all your followers. Kindly realize that when we want your advice we will call on you.

Right now you are not being helpful with your garbled pronouncements about editing and purports, as in your “barking dog video”. Rather than impressing us with your knowledge, you are only displaying that you have practically zero knowledge of the content of Srila Prabhupada’s books and zero appreciation of the way Srila Prabhupada distributed Krsna consciousness without discrimination to every caste, creed, race and gender on the face of this earth.

The evidence of this irrefutable fact is the assembly sitting before you in the ‘barking dog’ video, however your response is to stir up feminist and racist controversy with a distorted presentation of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings and purports, in particular. Playing cheap politics, how shamelessly you pander to the feminists in the crowd exclaiming, “You think that Shyamarani less intelligent than anyone?”

Your bad grammar may be forgiven, but not your bad behavior towards a great Acarya. There is no question on this point. Your brazen performance is condemnable; you openly play divisive politics and cast groundless, malicious aspersions.

For you to publicly propose that because of Srila Prabhupada’s books people are leaving Krsna consciousness plainly shows that you are either out of touch with reality, or you have a covert agenda. What devious game are you playing? How can you so misrepresent the teachings and transcendental potency of Srila Prabhupada, especially when you are surrounded by the very souls he has brought to Krsna consciousness?

Actually, is it not you and your machinations that have taken them away from Krsna consciousness and the service of the mission of their Spiritual Master? You and your followers consider lurking around ISKCON temples, trying to snatch away visitors and Srila Prabhupada’s servants, as valid conduct. Is this not more the mentality of a thief than a Vaisnava?

Are you encouraging these seduced unfortunates to study and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s books, as they should, or are you brainwashing them into being your personality-cult followers, with a broken attachment to reading Srila Prabhupada’s books? Do you want to bring Srila Prabhupada’s books into disrepute so they are no longer studied and distributed by his (ex)-disciples?

You have turned the honorific “Srila Prabhupada” into the inappropriately familiar “Swamiji”. However you are now “Gurudeva”. Do you think we cannot see what you are doing? Are you not just simply envious and jealous of Srila Prabhupada’s glorious status? For your underhand purposes, you pretend to be his siksa-disciple, yet you cannot bring yourself to call such a great acarya, “Srila Prabhupada”, as his actual disciples do.

In fact, what have you actually done? What is the practical demonstration of the effect of your association? What is the fruit that is falling from your tree?

Your followers are obsessed with your status and the propagation of an inflated version of it. You are “the one and only way”! Is this not the central theme of your personality-cult? But is this not just a compensation for the doubt they carry in their hearts, but dare not voice? The doubt in you that fuels the obsessive propaganda that spills out of your math, unresolved.

A good question, just where are you at? The continuing confusion around this question is in itself an answer. Who actually knows the quality of your allegiance?

We know your spiritual master practically had to physically drag you back from the polluted association of the imitationist sahajiya babajis. We know you ignore Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada by making the intimate pastimes of Sri Sri Radha-Krsna a matter of common public presentation before ignorant neophytes. We know that you give your form of ‘diksa’ very cheaply. We know that you are on the bodily platform, as you restrict Westerners from being pujaris or cooking for the Deity, or even serving the prasadam-very Hindu, but not Vaisnavism. We know that your spiritual master upon his departure made careful arrangements so that you should never give diksa within his math, by naming not only the next mahant, but also his successor. We know you are generally rejected within the Gaudiya Math. We know that when Srila Prabhupada was opening the Mayapur temple project, it was you, yes you, that campaigned against him and the validity of his disciples and ISKCON. We know you were infuriated when your strategy to install yourself as the supreme personality of ISKCON failed-yet now, following your exhortations, many of your cult-members openly say they wish to destroy ISKCON. At the same time, you propose that “you are ISKCON”. What a long-running farce, born out of your obsession with ISKCON.

Most of all, we know that your “barking-mad” video is only one of your innumerable attempts to marginalize the central Acarya of the modern worldwide Krsna consciousness movement by your bitter fault-finding attitude. But, let us be frank, actually in the video you only make a fool of yourself by displaying your muddled ignorance.

What benefit will you attain by such irrational, compulsive conduct as your life draws to a close?

Thanks, but no thanks for your ‘help’. Don’t call us, we’ll call you.

Your servant,

Balavidya dasa
Comment by Paramananda das on October 11, 2010 at 8:46am
Payonidhi Das Das I am very sad to hear that HH Narayana Maharaja is giving up his body, lately I have argued with some of his more neophyte disciples, personally I have known him since many years and have much love for him
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Payonidhi Das Das tavasmi radhika-nathakarmana manasa girakrishna-kante tavaivasmiyuvam eva gatir mama sharanam vam prapanno 'smikaruna-nikarakarauprasadam kuru dasyam bhomayi dushte 'paradhini "O Lord of Shrimati Radharani, I am Yours; my actions, mind and words. O lover of Shri Krishna, Shrimate Radharani, I belong to You alone. You both are my only shelter. O Radha and Krishna, ocean of mercy, I am taking shelter of You. Please be pleased upon me and make me Your servant, although I am such a fallen offender."
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Payonidhi Das Das But I am of the opinion it is better for me to be in ISKCON and some of his disciples do not accept it, and have treatened to even kill me an/or take me to court or both

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