Dirty politics and fallen standards
PAMHO
AGTSP
When becoming a devotee, I had no idea there is sometimes dirty politics in ISKCON.But sadly that it is so.The complexities of it is so nasty.
One time one (socalled) sannyasi wanted me to marry a disciple of his and I refused.,flatly and simply, he put pressure on me and asked another
sannyasi to help him.I simply left that temple.There was so much grhamedhi mentality in this temple(one unmarried pair had illicit sex etc)
.Krsna took care of everything.
If we depend on Krsna He will protect us from low minded mentality,plus He will protect us from our own material mind and senses,
full surrender to Krsna is always needed.In Kali yuga it starts with chanting, best is to daily chanted 64 rounds as instructed by Lord Caitanya.
Later I ask him why he had pressured the other sannyasi I get married to his disciple
then he accused me I was jealous when his disciple got married to someone waiting to take sannyasa,I said of course not
,but someone on waiting list for sannyasa...?.These things are clear prove,that there should be some temples in ISKCON
with strict sannyasis
and brahmacaries only, not with playboy sannyasis and grhamedhis and agitated unmarried women, and there should be no women cooking for the
sannyasis or serving them.
Taking service from a woman is not allowed for sannyasis.Srila Prabhupada did so to establish ISKCON , but sannyasis normally have nothing
to do with women..and since their females business is theirs some have married their female disciples like Harikesa and Jagadish .The "playboy sannyasi"
keeps personal bank accounts and wealth and take service from women,this is against the teachings of Lord Caitanya.I throw up when I see sannyasis
deals sentimentally with women.Jagadananda Pandit has warned against this. Lord Caitanya forbad this and rejected Chota Haridas.
One top of this if a person that has taken sannyasa gives initiation and allows his disciples to take grains on Visnutattva apperancedays he has become
asat, and should be rejected.Unless he stops such offensive behavior.
Sannyasa is a paramahamsa asrama, and 64 rounds is for sannyasis also(especially for them ).Any sannyasi with personal wealth should immediately
turn it over to a temple with proper and honest accounting.. funny enough the one sannyasi used to have 2 brahmacarinis chasing him ,and I told him later
he should have had some sympathy with me(he apologized and agreed).
I am not blaming anyone, but am showing this to the effect, the present system will lead til it will be almost impossbile for anyone to remain a brahmacari
in the west (which is already difficult) 2 of the only old time Brahmacaries I know from USA ,Bhagavad Purana and Rama Raya Prabhus have taken shelter
in Vrindavan in the 24 hours kirtana program...sannyasis and TP's have mostly little concern for the brahmacaries and it really saddens me.
I recall when a Brahmacari (Rama Raya) wanted to stay in Boston temple where a proven gay became the TP, he complained to me to say something
to the GBC....Niranjana Swami, who had reinitiated this madman...and made him the TP.
ISKCON LA is one of the few temples that have brahmacaries that distribute Srila Prabhupadas books.So they have life...
(those who distribute Prabhupadas books)
Grhasthas and brahmacarinies and sannyasis
rarely distribute Srila Prabhupadas books, so the protection of the brahmacari asrama is so important.
Those who are envious of bookdistribution and brahmacaries should be much ashamed of themselves...
The one sannyasi was later expelled from ISKCON
The other sannyasi said I should get married because I did not distribute as many books as I used to and it would help me.Thank you rascal.
I was the top book distributor in that temple for 3 years.This sannyasis used to cry when he had to distribute books(as a brahmacari),what a rascal
and he ended up as
a sannyasi and has to advise me on bookdistribution and getting married while his own disciples where having illlict sex in the temple?
I remember many years ago also when some devotees became grhasthas and stopped distributing books, one became a TP and was full of false ego
and angry for not being abel to control his senses he started to harrass the brahmacaries.So grhamedhis that have illicit sex has no right to lord it over
brahamacaries.....they should at least become grhastha brahmacaries and start going on bookdistribution...
I am not generalizing but giving examples when things go bad... this is written only to help protect brahmacaries and sannyasis in ISKCON nothing else.
Purity is the force
By the way arranged marriages for western devotees often end up in divorce, and then they choose another devotee lady they find compatible.
That mostly works.But divorce is not allowed in KC and getting married again
When I finally decieded to get married after I moved outside the temple in Washington DC ,some attempts was there to get me married to
a divorced mataji (who used to be one of the wives of one devotee in New Vrindavan ,as Kirtananda allowed some to have more than one wife,Devamrta
and Radhanath and others blindly followed this to enhance their possibilities of increased power) .By the way the day Devamrta took sannyasa his
humility died , I remember it very well in 1982, later this year he falsly accused me of so many things, and later tried to force me to sell paintings
in 1984 and because I refused, as I wanted to only distribute Srila Prabhupadas books, I was no longer wanted.When I later gave him a money donation
I was "reinstated" ,welcome to the power control of rascals in ISKCON, it is all about the power to control money and women , and manpower,not
about spreading KC.....and if something like serving grains on Visnutattva apperance days is "good for business", they do it these days.
But I chose to marry someone I had made a devotee because I knew where her mind was at and her heart.
Life is for sure not easy.
Had there been a temple with Brahmacaries and at least one good sannyasi I would have been there till this day.(but I do not see one spiritually
strong sannyasi in all of ISKCON) Real sannyasis are not comfort riders ,and those using their disciples for their Gurubusiness.
Boston temple was once
a paradise for brahmacaries .(that is long gone)...all doing books...will such days ever come back in ISKCON ?
In the present ISKCON unless you are a wierdo, ugly and excentric staying a brahmacari is difficult,but from a strong brahmacari asrama
comes spiritually
strong
grhasthas and sannyasis.Otherwise these weak persons later become leaders and train other spiritually weak persons.
I twice got approached(chased) by matajis in ISKCON seeking my shelter for marriage in KC and this was used against me, by demons.
If these demons would
stop chasing women, ISKCON would be better,But pseudo devotees stay in temple with no interest in daily Harinama and bookdistribution.
Their target is money and women,fame and wealth....
.All Gurus need to go on sankirtana and take their useless disciples with them (because those who do not
distribute Srila Prabhupadas books are more or less useless)Those who does not distribute Srila Prabhupadas books have no connection with him
(see SB 7.9.44 purport)
Someone asked me the other day who is is the best GBC in ISKCON and who is the worse, who is the best sannyasi and who is the worse
My answer, that GBC that makes sure Srila Prabhupadas books get distributed and takes no wealth for himself ,and renounces power and position
to help others,that is the real sannyasi and GBC.Above all teaching by example....The soul is neither sannyasa ,grhastha or woman etc.ISKCON is
for the spiritual upliftment of the world not for fools trying to conquer it....Plus remember without chanting 64 rounds daily there will never be pure
devotional service in ISKCON, only mixed Bhakti.
One womanizer person is up for sannyasa he never liked to do any service, never went on sankirtana ,so why give him sannyasa.He does not even know the
KC philosophy very well...
ys
Payonidhi das
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