Who can be a Guru?

[Paramananda das]

dandavat pranamas

Jaya Sri Guru and Gauranga, Gandarvika Giridhari

Jaya Srila Prabhupada

I send this to Mother Urmila:

http://nimaipandit.ning.com/profiles/blogs/woman-should-not-be-diksha-guru-date-nov-28-2012

her response:

Urmila Edith Best

Prabhupada's clear and repeated desire is sufficient for me.

• Paramananda Das

  What makes you think you are qualified to be a diksa Guru ? Why would you want too? Srila Prabhupada also stated the document of management should be implemented it never was. Many devotees will not even chant 16 rounds anyway.Why would you want to control and manipulate other devotees life like so many ISKCON Gurus do with little and no qualifikation? Most becoem Gurus for 2 reasons money and respect or both, are you free from those 2 motives, do you chant minimum 64 rounds like Jahnava mataji?Many ISKCON Gurus have destoyed the spiritual lifeof 100.000 of devotees are youy wellversed in the sandarbhas? have you realized your sthiya bhava>? Do you even know what that is?
• Prabhupada said Gurus should be uttama adhikaris why throw more kanistha adhikaris into the mix of emotional women? Would you do daily Harinama and have all your disciples do bookdistribution? Can you take even one soul back to Godhead?
• do you know many devotees will leave ISKCON if you become a diksa Guru,you are that selfish????-+

Today Mother Govinda showed her real colors also:

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=11051

These older Prabhupada mataji disciples are not properly trained in KC and do not know their duties .

Anyhow so many persons are eager to be diksa Gurus, and none of them chant 64 rounds as ordered by Lord Caitanya.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada said those who do no chant 64 rounds daily are fallen.

.""We have asked our students to finish sixteen rounds chanting minimum. Sixteen  rounds is nothing. In Vrndavana there are many devotees that chant 120 rounds.  So sixteen rounds is the minimum. Because I know in the Western countries it is  a difficult job to finish sixty-four rounds or 120 rounds. The minimum of  sixteen rounds must be finished." (NOD lecture 20/10/72)

Also these persons never even distribute Srila Prabhupadas books though he ordered everyone to do so.They want to be Gurus and say it is not my duty.I have seen so many ISKCON leaders sit and rot in the temple in comfort and you can never drag them on Harinama and bookdistribution.Only when is prasadam, some prestige and lots of money.

Aksayänanda Swami: Yes. I was told in the beginning you asked the first disciples to chant 64 rounds? Prabhupäda: Yes.

They can not chant 64 rounds nor inspire or advise their disciples to do so,Their diksa has no use.

Some foolish ISKCON Gurus say it is an offence to chant 64 rounds still they write books about madhurya rasa.This is their own rascaldom and they can not taste anything that way just lick a bottle on the outside and pretend to taste nectar.

http://www.sivaramaswami.com/en/2009/05/18/fools-criticize-srila-prabhupadas-formula-for-going-back-to-godhead/

But they refuse to taste the medicine given by Lord Caitanya in the dose of 64 rounds, you can not even do this and you want to be a Guru???? Only Putana Guru that is all ......simply cheating ,the cheaters and the cheated.

16 rounds is A BARE MINIMUM, NOT A MAXIMUM RASCAL! Thus ISKCON Gurus cheat you of the real nectar, and ask for your money to maintain their lazy life in comfort .

Here is a brief history  of the transition from sixty-four rounds a day to sixteen: "In 1967 at San  Francisco, Srila Prabhupada asked me [Mukunda dasa], 'What is your definition of  Krsna?' I said, 'Krsna is God. He is the Supreme Being. Our duty is to worship  and serve Him.' Swamiji [Srila Prabhupada] seemed fairly satisfied, and then he  said, 'You must chant sixty-four rounds per day on your beads.'

"I was shocked at this  and could not answer. I did not know if there was any need to answer. I just  kept looking at Swamiji, and he looked at me. After some time he said, 'Or at  least you can chant thirty-two rounds a day.' Still silence. I considered it to  be very difficult to chant even sixteen rounds. I was wondering how I could  possibly chant thirty-two rounds. After some time, Swamiji said, At the very  least you must chant sixteen rounds every day.' " (Srila Prabhupada  Lilamrta)

Hayagriva dasa  describes the same incident in Hare Krishna Explosion: "Now that you have  beads," Swamiji says the next morning, "you should chant sixty-four rounds every  day." "Sixty-four rounds?" To pronounce every word of the mantra distinctly, we  require five minutes to chant a round. Sixty-four rounds would take over five  hours. "Impossible!" we say. "We'll never have the time." "All right," Swamiji  says, "Thirty-two rounds." "Impossible," we say. "We'll never be able to do it.  It's way too much." "All right," Swamiji says. "Sixteen rounds. No less.""

Gopal Krsna Maharaja preached this year in DC that devotees tried for few days to chant 64 round and then they gave up.This is a lie , because he and many other lazy ISKCON Gurus have never tried to chant 64 rounds though Prabhupadas asked for it.

The fact is that 75 percent of initiated devotees in ISKCON do not finish their 16 rounds even, one ISKCON Guru and GBC has been chastised many times for not completing 16 rounds.This is the socalled Prabhupadas disciples anyone should take diksa from.

Aindra chanted 120 rounds daily Mahanidhi Swami chants 64 rounds and more.This is the real example.So do not be fooled.

Trust me ISKCON Gurus and sannyasis just want your money, ask them if they will go on Harinama especially bookdistribution and all will shy away.

The do not teach by example , but push :YOU GO< YOU GO.Like Jayadvaita Swami this    

Maha rascal yelled at me for not distributing BBT books because I like the KBI better as it does not have the brown pages(the acid

turns the pages brown) (Anyhow I am trying to work with the BBT and hope they will start printing all pre 1978 books so everyone can buy from BBT ,wether they want the revised Jayadvaita Swamis version or pre 1978.)

1990 was the year of womenlib one of the big proponents later had illicit sex with a prominent sannyasi.Another male devotee that pushed women to be diksa Gurus had a wife that used to fall down with married devotee men. Jaya so nice ...lets have more female diksas so there will be more illicit sex. Now it is only illicit sex with sannyasis and their female disciple so soon it will be some female Gurus with their indian young viril male disciples. And IT WILL HAPPEN.IT WILL BE THE GBC:S FAULT.

I have seen in Denmark how a  female TP was having illicit sex with a brahmacari .Great stuff.Srila Prabhupada did not want female Tp's and GBC's or Gurus.And yes if you find something from 1968 , well he also had DOM  established as a legal document.So lets have female Gurus and Document of mangement. Why pick and choose instructiones as you please? Srila Prabhupada also writes SB 7.9.44 purport: "it is the duty of all members of ISKCON to distribute Bhagavad Gita as it is"

So dear   aspiring female Gurus  ,why not start following SB 7,9.44 ??? Why not be the siksa Guru of maybe some lazy godbrothers also that never distribute Prabhupadas books? If they are not to busy chasing women and getting remarried again and again .....?

vaisnava das anu das

Paramananda das

PS : A question I have for the BBT can they please stop paying for Jayadvaita Swamis flights (all over the world ,just spacing out) and use that money to buy better paper for BBT books ?

[Paramananda das]

I wrote mother Urmila:

kindly forgive my sharp words they are not meant to offend you in any way ,just warn you of the effects of having female diksa Gurus in ISKCON

and I do not mind if you and Mother Govinda where diksa Gurus but I doubt Srila Prabhupada would want it

[Paramananda das]

http://www.dandavats.com/?p=11051