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no disrespect from my side against Narayana Maharaja,but do respect ISKCON

dear Madhava Vanacari
Please accept my humble obaisences
all glories to Srila Prabhupada
Yes I did write that I disagree with Narayana Maharaja that Ramacarita Manasa should not be read and studied by pure vaisnavas as this book is tinged with Mayavada .
See http://nimaipandit.ning.com/profiles/blogs/narada-married
I stick to that, those on the path of pure bhakti never read books mixed with mayavada .
As you know I spend time with Narayana Maharaja since 1986 when I spend a week in Kesavaji Gaudiya math
doing some seva for collecting for Janmastami souvenir for ISKCON Vrindavan.Maharaja gave me many good
instructions such as the importance of chanting more than 16 rounds daily.

I disagree with him about few things however:
He also states there is no Kalki avatar in the end of Kali yuga that opposes Srimad Bhagavatam
and Kalki Purana, and can not be accepted as it contradict Srila Vyasadevs authority and that of the Puranas.
Maharaja accepts disciples sometimes on the spot given them diksa the next day, I have seen it and it is against the teachings of Srila Rupa and Sanatana Goswami.
The real serious problem is his disciples target ISKCON congregation all over the world, I and many others have a great problem with that.
I wish you well
your servant
Payonidhi das

my pranams to Srila Prabhupada and his Guru Maharaja that was very strict:
namaste gaura-vani-sri-murtaye dina-tarine
rupanuga-viruddhapasiddhanta-dhvanta-harine
"I offer my respectful obeisances unto you, who are the personified teachings of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. You are the deliverer of the fallen souls. You do not tolerate any statement which is against the siddhanta enunciated by Srila Rupa Goswami."
nikhila-bhuvana-maya-chinnavichina-kartri
vibudha-bahula-mrgya-mukti-mohanta-dhatri
sithilita-vidhi-raga-radhya-radhesa-dhani
vilasatu hrdi nityam bhaktisiddhanta vani
"With his first step, He cut to pieces the whole plane of exploitation, and with his second, he crushed the speculation of scholars of salvation and liberation. With his third, he softened vaidhi bhakti with a touch of divine love (raga marga). Taking us beyond Vaikuntha, he has introduced us to the highest worship of Sri Radha and Govinda.

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Comment by Paramananda das on August 21, 2010 at 11:57am
not only target congregation but initiated devotees serving in ISKCON
Comment by Paramananda das on August 31, 2010 at 12:21am
Dandavats
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
I kick in the face of appasiddhantas ,I will not address Narayana Maharaja as Srila if he teach that there is no Kalki avatar and so many things I have proven by sastra is wrong.
Srila is for me for Srila Prabhupada and all our acaryas, ,I do not accept Narayana Maharaja as an acarya, this does not mean he has not helped me in the past or I have not any love
and affection for him.An acarya can not preach things opposed to siddhanta.I am sorry if you misunderstood me, I should have made it more clear.I did not mean to cause you and others any distress all I ask for is you carefully try to understand siddhanta,not with some fanatic approach but by sastra as I have shown,You have not proven there is no Kali Avatar, it contadicts sastra,Ramacarita Manasa is tinged with Maayvadi it should not be read by pure followers of Lord Gauranga.My life has been treatened by one madman
that claims to follow Narayana Maharaja,this is very demoniac.if you want to discuss philosophy we can do otherwise there is no need.My anger was also directed at those who target ISKCON from NM math,I have tried to defend Narayana Maharaja so man times in ISKCON, almost loosing friends like Basu Ghosh ..many of you people do not call Srila Prabhupada for Srila or even Prabhupada he is just Swamiji....and many of you served in ISKCON and was saved by Srila Prabhupada

But you people are not helping if you target ISKCON congregation and devotees and I kick in the face of this kind of mentality ,I would not kick a devotee in the face, what can be
more offensive, unless some idiot attacks me Damodara come on you think I would kick Narayana Maharaja in the face? I am disgusted with blind faith based not on sastra I am
furious about the attempt to recruit all of ISKCON into NM math and destroy ISKCON..yes I kick in the face of this kind of mentality ..Srila Prabhupada used this term many times it does not mean a devotee kicks someone in the face,what to speak of an advanced vaisnava like Narayana Maharaja.Despite all the apasiddhantas I have only love and affection for him , but I am in ISKCON and those who can not respect that are foolish..so please stop being possisive nothing belongs to you..as a Sannyasi you should know that
In Goloka Vrindavan there is no institutional diversity, but as we are still here,I am here to defend ISKCON..like it or not.. I will not contact you do not worry,and I delete all aggressions that why I am not with Narayana Maharaja, he does not need me and I do not need him...my spiritual life is great as it is,I am making more advancement than ever before realizing that Srila Prabhupada is my eternal Guru, wether I have met him in person or not..and he has given me everything I need in KC. Narayana Maharaja
has advised me to chant 64 rounds I follow this instruction strictly and he has given me so many things I can not share here.Now you all please stop calling Srila Prabhuapda
just for Swamiji, ?Depsite his appsiddhantas I have much love for him and I know he will one day go to Gauranga and Radha Krishna,would I offend such a vaisnava?Those of you who know me , knows I am a very serious devotee..if not you have never known me well...my anger and so on is my manifestation of love and concerns actually that NM math and ISKCON should be abel to cooporate and cut the middle man and trouble maker "Kali "out .This is a united front against Maya not against each other.This is one of the anarthas Krsna kills it by swallowing the forest fire .So my prayer is let Krsna swallow the fire between ISKCON
and Narayana Maharaja and followers,but if you all and ISKCON devotees are bullheadred it will never happen,,,the agression on ISKCON congregation should stop and this will be the first step
in making peace, just saying we are perfect because we are with NM is nonsens,,,and everyone in ISKCON is a demon and visa versa..I used to pray to be born again and again to preach KC,I have no desire with all the interinstitutional fighting with vaisnavas,it is all maya..I offer you all my pranams and wish you the best and pray to the Lotusfeet of Lord Nityananda one day there can only be vaisnava love...yes I am tired of apasiddhantas yes they kill me when they are among devotees We all remain spirit souls and Krishna is trying to save us...

Without cheating anyone, we should boldly proclaim the truth to everyone. Even if the truth is unpopular, if it bestows genuine auspiciousness on the living entities we must speak it. Unless we fearlessly speak the truth, Sri Sri Guru-Gauranga will not be pleased. The more determined one is in devotional service, the bolder and more courageous he will be as a preacher."
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura

I like to add this truth has to be supported by sastra or it is asat....Jaya Sri Radha Shyam,I think there can be no compromise as Srila Prabhupada
is the founder acarya for ISKCON he will remain so,his movement is despite so many past mistakes the main branch of the Caitanya tree and it will remain so.
Good luck saving fallen souls
There is no need for further discussions...try to rectifie the appasiddantas that is first step
Song Name: Bahu Janma Bhagya Base
Official Name: Rupanuga Bhajana Darpana Songs 1 (Invocation) and 2
Author: Bhaktivinoda Thakura
Book Name: Gitamala
Language: Bengali

LYRICS:
Song 1:
śrī-guru śrī-gauracandra vṛndābane juba-dwandwa
vraja-vāsi-jana-śrī-caraṇa
vandiyā praphulla mane e bhaktivinoda bhaṇe
rūpanuga-bhajana-darpaṇa

Song 2:
(1)
bahu-janma-bhāgya-baśe cinmoya madhura rase
spṛhā janme jībera hiyāya
sei spṛhā lobha hoya braja-dhāme jība loya
rūpānuga-bhajane mātāya

(2)
bhajana-prakāra jata sakalera sāra mata
śikhāilo śrī-rūpa gosāñi
se bhajana nā jāniyā kṛṣṇa bhajibāre giyā
tuccha kāje jībana kāṭāi

(3)
bujhibāre se bhajana bahu jatna akiñcana
biracilo bhajana-darapaṇa
braje rādhā-kṛṣṇa-sebā korite utsuka jebā
sukhe teńha koruṇa śrabaṇa

(4)
lobhete janama pāi ati śīghra bāḍi' jāi
śraddhā rati tabe hoya prīti
sahaja bhajana rati nāhi cāya śikhā-mati
tabu śikhā prathamika-rīti

(5)
putra-sneha jananīra sahaja hṛdoye sthira
dūṣita hṛdoye śikhā cāi
kṛṣṇa-prema sei rūpa nitya-siddha aparūpa
baddha-jībe aprakaṭa bhāi

(6)
sei to' sahaja rati pāiyāche apagati
śikhānuśīlana jadi pāya
se rati jāgiyā uṭhe jībera bandhana chuṭe
brajānanda tāhāre nācāya

TRANSLATION
Song 1:
1) Glorifying the lotus feet of Sri Guru, Sri Gauracandra, the Youthful Couple of Vrndavan as well as of all the residents of Vraja, with a cheerful mind this Bhaktivinoda will now narrate the description of the mirror which reflects the worship of those who strictly follow in the footsteps of Srila Rupa Gosvami.

Song 2:
1) By the influence of extremely good fortune accrued for many, many births, the desire awakens within the heart of a fortunate soul to taste the sweetness of eternal transcendental mellows. Then, a strong inclination toward such a desire forcibly brings that soul to Sri Vrndavana-dhama, where he becomes absorbed in the worship of LordKrsna which strictly follows the process outlined by Srila Rupa Gosvami.

2) Srila Rupa Gosvami has so kindly given us his valuable opinion and taught the essential techniques for properly worshiping the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Whoever tries to worship Krsna without being aware of these methods will simply waste his entire life in useless labor.

3) Just for the sake of those who really want to understand this worship, I have taken great care to humbly present this mirror of bhajana, although I am insignificant. If any of you are actually serious and enthusiastic to render eternal service to Sri Sri Radha-Krsna in the transcendental realm of Vraja, then I request you now to please hear this narration with great happiness.

4) If one has intense greed and selfish eagerness for this process, presented herein, then gradually his faith, then taste, and then full attachment in love will all increase very, very quickly. One who has attained this platform of worship in his own natural love and attachment has no need at all to bother with scriptural rules and regulations, although in the primary, beginning stage such practices are mandatory.

5) Brothers, it is just like the affection of a mother for her son, which is naturally fixed in her heart. She is inclined to care for her son by instinct. But if someone else cares for the same child, they may not be as attentive as the mother, so they might sometimes need to be reminded of their duty. So love for Krsna is just like that. It is natural and wonderful for the nitya-siddha souls, whereas it is completely unmanifested and beyond the range of the nitya-baddha souls who are outside the purview of devotion.

6) However, if one cultivates these spiritual instructions, then the flow of his natural attachment and affection for the Lord is released. And when this attachment reawakens and grows, then all the material bondage which entraps the soul becomes severed, and this natural spiritual attachment will make him dance in the transcendental ecstastic bliss ofVraja consciousness.


This is originally the starting invocation verse for the Fourth Chapter of the Gitamala, which including the full song, has 29 subsequent songs.

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