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Chant 64 rounds and preach
(this is in response to http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/09-09/editorials5114.htm)
Srila Prabhupada asked his early disciples to chant 64 rounds.Due to their neophyte stage they did not accept his instruction .I personally believe they did a great disservice and cheated many future devotees from the nectar of taking shelter of the holy name.I know several devotees that not only have given up chanting 16 rounds, chanting gayatri, offering their bhoga, observing ekadasi,and they take grains on Visnutattva apperance days.As a result of such neglect in some cases these devotees children ,end up even eating meat.
Srila Prabhupada was never independent from his GuruMaharaja, and the disciplic succession, those who preach this is under the influence of Karanabhaja sahajiya ideas ,where the Guru is seen as God and independent of previous acaryas.
The fact is if you consider it carefully if devotees had been chanting 64 rounds would so many Gurus had fallen? Or sannaysis? Most likely not.
I joined and helped start ISKCON Denmark in 1979 and would go often alone and sell Srila Prabhupadas books for 8 to 12 hours ,sometimes more (I was just a new bhakta).Even from that time I realized there is no other shelter but the holy name, and would chant extra.This properly saved me from getting married until I was 38 years.I spend 19 years in ISKCON as a bookdistributor.I know all my personal problems in devotional service have always been due to lack of chanting more.In ISKCON we have made 16 rounds into a maximum,Srila Prabhupada never said to do so,But encouraged more and more chanting."Do not remain idle chant Hare Krsna". Srila Prabhupada's complaint with his western disciples was not reading his books enough, fighting among themselves, falling down into illicit sex and not knowing the philosophy of KC.
Now how many devotees are spending 8 hours more a day on the streets preaching? Preaching is down in ISKCON big time.Ask the BBT in NA.How much Harinama is going on every day?I am not advocating to stop preaching.But to preach more.Srila Prabhupada has asked every member of ISKCON to go door to door distributing his books (See SB 7.9.44 purport)
"Rather, every member of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is interested in going door to door to try to convince people about the teachings of Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, the teachings of Lord Caitanya. That is the purpose of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. The members of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement must be fully convinced that without Kṛṣṇa one cannot be happy. Thus the Kṛṣṇa conscious person avoids all kinds of pseudo spiritualists, transcendentalists, meditators, monists, philosophers and philanthropists."
Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas has stated one is Patita unless one chants 64 rounds a day.One will not be abel to get rid of jnana and karma is the statements of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada he has made some very drastic statements about chanting 64 rounds.I have faith in his words if others do, or not it is their problem.
shri gaurasundera balibena-"jini pratidina laksha-nama grahana karibena, tanharai grihe bhagavan sevita hana.
Shri Gaurasundera spoke as follows-"The Supreme Personality of Godhead accepts service only in the home of those who chant one hundred thousand names daily.
"jini laksha-nama grahana karena na, tahara nikate haite bhagavan naivedya svikara-dvara seva-saubhagya pradana karena na.
"Those who don't chant 100,000 names (64 rounds) daily, are never awarded the great fortune of rendering service to the Lord by offering Him naivedya (bhoga). This is because the Lord never accepts (svikara) their offerings.
"bhagavad-bhakta matrei pratyaha laksha-nama grahana karibena natuva vividha visaye asakta haiya bhagavad-seva karite asamartha haibena."
The Lord continued-"Those who consider themselves devotees of the Lord must compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna everyday otherwise they will gradually but surely become attached to varieties of sense-objects and thus become incapable to rendering any kind of service to the Lord."
tajjanyai shri chaitanyadevera ashrita sakalai nyuna kalpe laksha-nama grahana kariya thakena. natuva gaurasunderera udeshya pradatta naivedya tini grahana karibena na.
(Shrila Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada continues) "Therefore all the devotees who have taken shelter of Lord Chaitanyadeva perform the chanting of a minimum of 100,000 names of Krishna daily as their first and primary duty. Because they know that if they don't do so then Lord Gaurasundera will never accept the very bhoga (naivedya) which they cook for Him daily.
shri chaitanya bhaktagana abhaktera sahita sambhashana karena na. jini bhaktivyatita karma, jnana o anyabhilashara kathaya pradatta tahara sahita bandhutva karibe na.
"The devotees of Lord Shri Chaitanya never talk with such non-devotees. They never do friendship with those who are engaged in the cultivation of karma, jnana or other desires which are devoid of bhakti.
If we want to get the full mercy of Srila Prabhupada and his Guru Maharaja and Lord Nityananda Prabhu we should chant 64 rounds and go on Harinama and bookdistribution, and preach.Tamohara Prabhu I humbly suggest you take these instructions to heart and set a good example,they are not coming from me but Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas and Lord Caitanya Himself.And Srila Prabhupada has suggested to increase ones chanting, so why still only 16 rounds after 30 -40 years? Have we not advanced a little? At least make it 17 rounds then gradually 20-25 ..32 and 64 .As one starts chanting more the rounds become more attentive and one chants much faster. I have noticed when I reach 40 rounds or so and am not distracted I can easy chant a round with all syllabels and names in 5 minutes.I can even now see some light at the end of the tunnel, that our acaryas like Bhaktivinoda Thakura though so busy never failed to chant 64 rounds.Acaryas set the example .. I suggest you try it here in the month of Kartika where Radharanis mercy is a 1000 fold for any service done.One devotee wrote me and thanked me for suggesting to chant 64 rounds and since 3 weeks he is doing so and will continue he writes, his stress, anxiety , and material desires are gone he writes.Another devotee is now chanting 32 rounds, and trying to chant more.I have no credit it is the mercy of Srila Prabhupada ,Lord Nityananda and Sri Nama Prabhu.If we simply become humble like Lord Caitanya ,that stated :" I am fool there fore I chant Hare Krsna on the instruction of my Guru ".If we think we know more than Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas we will never increase the quality and quantity of our chanting.My conviction is all problems will be solved if we start chanting 64 rounds and do at least regular Harinamas in all temples.
As quoted in a previous posting if we chant 64 rounds we will become empowered to preach, these are the words spoken by Lokanatha Das Goswami to Narrotama das Thakura.There is no reason to look for excuses to surrender..we should welcome surrender to Krsna, better late than never...Sa vai manah Krsna padaravidayor..devotional service starts with fixing the mind on Krsna.Time to turn of the TV and chant Hare Krsna...and go on sankirtana
Param Vijyate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
your humble servant
Payonidhi das
Srila Prabhupada asked his early disciples to chant 64 rounds.Due to their neophyte stage they did not accept his instruction .I personally believe they did a great disservice and cheated many future devotees from the nectar of taking shelter of the holy name.I know several devotees that not only have given up chanting 16 rounds, chanting gayatri, offering their bhoga, observing ekadasi,and they take grains on Visnutattva apperance days.As a result of such neglect in some cases these devotees children ,end up even eating meat.
Srila Prabhupada was never independent from his GuruMaharaja, and the disciplic succession, those who preach this is under the influence of Karanabhaja sahajiya ideas ,where the Guru is seen as God and independent of previous acaryas.
The fact is if you consider it carefully if devotees had been chanting 64 rounds would so many Gurus had fallen? Or sannaysis? Most likely not.
I joined and helped start ISKCON Denmark in 1979 and would go often alone and sell Srila Prabhupadas books for 8 to 12 hours ,sometimes more (I was just a new bhakta).Even from that time I realized there is no other shelter but the holy name, and would chant extra.This properly saved me from getting married until I was 38 years.I spend 19 years in ISKCON as a bookdistributor.I know all my personal problems in devotional service have always been due to lack of chanting more.In ISKCON we have made 16 rounds into a maximum,Srila Prabhupada never said to do so,But encouraged more and more chanting."Do not remain idle chant Hare Krsna". Srila Prabhupada's complaint with his western disciples was not reading his books enough, fighting among themselves, falling down into illicit sex and not knowing the philosophy of KC.
Now how many devotees are spending 8 hours more a day on the streets preaching? Preaching is down in ISKCON big time.Ask the BBT in NA.How much Harinama is going on every day?I am not advocating to stop preaching.But to preach more.Srila Prabhupada has asked every member of ISKCON to go door to door distributing his books (See SB 7.9.44 purport)
"Rather, every member of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is interested in going door to door to try to convince people about the teachings of Bhagavad-gītā As It Is, the teachings of Lord Caitanya. That is the purpose of the Hare Kṛṣṇa movement. The members of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement must be fully convinced that without Kṛṣṇa one cannot be happy. Thus the Kṛṣṇa conscious person avoids all kinds of pseudo spiritualists, transcendentalists, meditators, monists, philosophers and philanthropists."
Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas has stated one is Patita unless one chants 64 rounds a day.One will not be abel to get rid of jnana and karma is the statements of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada he has made some very drastic statements about chanting 64 rounds.I have faith in his words if others do, or not it is their problem.
shri gaurasundera balibena-"jini pratidina laksha-nama grahana karibena, tanharai grihe bhagavan sevita hana.
Shri Gaurasundera spoke as follows-"The Supreme Personality of Godhead accepts service only in the home of those who chant one hundred thousand names daily.
"jini laksha-nama grahana karena na, tahara nikate haite bhagavan naivedya svikara-dvara seva-saubhagya pradana karena na.
"Those who don't chant 100,000 names (64 rounds) daily, are never awarded the great fortune of rendering service to the Lord by offering Him naivedya (bhoga). This is because the Lord never accepts (svikara) their offerings.
"bhagavad-bhakta matrei pratyaha laksha-nama grahana karibena natuva vividha visaye asakta haiya bhagavad-seva karite asamartha haibena."
The Lord continued-"Those who consider themselves devotees of the Lord must compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna everyday otherwise they will gradually but surely become attached to varieties of sense-objects and thus become incapable to rendering any kind of service to the Lord."
tajjanyai shri chaitanyadevera ashrita sakalai nyuna kalpe laksha-nama grahana kariya thakena. natuva gaurasunderera udeshya pradatta naivedya tini grahana karibena na.
(Shrila Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada continues) "Therefore all the devotees who have taken shelter of Lord Chaitanyadeva perform the chanting of a minimum of 100,000 names of Krishna daily as their first and primary duty. Because they know that if they don't do so then Lord Gaurasundera will never accept the very bhoga (naivedya) which they cook for Him daily.
shri chaitanya bhaktagana abhaktera sahita sambhashana karena na. jini bhaktivyatita karma, jnana o anyabhilashara kathaya pradatta tahara sahita bandhutva karibe na.
"The devotees of Lord Shri Chaitanya never talk with such non-devotees. They never do friendship with those who are engaged in the cultivation of karma, jnana or other desires which are devoid of bhakti.
If we want to get the full mercy of Srila Prabhupada and his Guru Maharaja and Lord Nityananda Prabhu we should chant 64 rounds and go on Harinama and bookdistribution, and preach.Tamohara Prabhu I humbly suggest you take these instructions to heart and set a good example,they are not coming from me but Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas and Lord Caitanya Himself.And Srila Prabhupada has suggested to increase ones chanting, so why still only 16 rounds after 30 -40 years? Have we not advanced a little? At least make it 17 rounds then gradually 20-25 ..32 and 64 .As one starts chanting more the rounds become more attentive and one chants much faster. I have noticed when I reach 40 rounds or so and am not distracted I can easy chant a round with all syllabels and names in 5 minutes.I can even now see some light at the end of the tunnel, that our acaryas like Bhaktivinoda Thakura though so busy never failed to chant 64 rounds.Acaryas set the example .. I suggest you try it here in the month of Kartika where Radharanis mercy is a 1000 fold for any service done.One devotee wrote me and thanked me for suggesting to chant 64 rounds and since 3 weeks he is doing so and will continue he writes, his stress, anxiety , and material desires are gone he writes.Another devotee is now chanting 32 rounds, and trying to chant more.I have no credit it is the mercy of Srila Prabhupada ,Lord Nityananda and Sri Nama Prabhu.If we simply become humble like Lord Caitanya ,that stated :" I am fool there fore I chant Hare Krsna on the instruction of my Guru ".If we think we know more than Srila Prabhupada and our acaryas we will never increase the quality and quantity of our chanting.My conviction is all problems will be solved if we start chanting 64 rounds and do at least regular Harinamas in all temples.
As quoted in a previous posting if we chant 64 rounds we will become empowered to preach, these are the words spoken by Lokanatha Das Goswami to Narrotama das Thakura.There is no reason to look for excuses to surrender..we should welcome surrender to Krsna, better late than never...Sa vai manah Krsna padaravidayor..devotional service starts with fixing the mind on Krsna.Time to turn of the TV and chant Hare Krsna...and go on sankirtana
Param Vijyate Sri Krsna Sankirtanam
your humble servant
Payonidhi das
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