The holy name of Krsna is the shelter not any instituion

[Paramananda das]

PAMHO AGTSP

Lord Caitanya set a very  strict standard of 64 rounds, he is God.Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada made no compromise.

Srila Prabhupada introduced 16 rounds as minimum. With the hope devotees will increase their chanting and hopefully reach 64 rounds.That some think that 16 rounds is enough for going back to Godhead is fine they can think this way, and Srila PRabhupada encouraged if you at least chant 16 rounds and follow 4 regs and engage in Harinama and bookdistribution.How many neglect bookdistribution and Harinama is the first question, how often do they go.???If even ever.

Many many devotees in ISKCON do not even chant 16 rounds and I hear it again and again many  Prabhupada discipels also tell me I do not chant 16 rounds.Oh is is 9 pm I have not finished my rounds Prabhu...such childish behavior.

16 rounds is a bare minimum. 

It is Krsnas holy name that will take you back to God head not the instituion of ISKCON or Gaudiya math or even your Guru, the Guru is there to help you chant.What is the use of Guru if he does not chant and the disciple does not chant?

Just coming to the temple one a week for one hour show of kirtana will not do anything .(only little as any chanting is good)

The problem is not chanting 64 rounds the  problem is many do not even do 16 they have no taste for Krsnas holy name, no taste for Harinama outside of the temple and zero taste for Prabhupadas bookdistribution.I only want the assocaition of those who relish and spread the holy name birth after birth.

Yes Prabhupada said to stay or try to stay in ISKCON, ISKCON is not the boat, Srila Prabhupadas vani is.There is many that follow Srila Prabhupadas instructions that have left ISKCON, so they are not devotees? This is like the same old religious institutional wars that always existed. Those who cry institution ,institution and do not serve ISKCON are just parasites, yes this is why they need institution otherwise there is no blood to suck.But ISKCON is not for parasites, and thieves, child molesters. 

One can not be in ISKCON and not chant and not follow 4 regs, then one is not in ISKCON even if one holds the position of the GBC chairman like Harikesa did so many times.And yet he never showed up for mangal artik in the 19  years he was supposed to be my Guru.

  When I got attacked by a disciple of Danavir ,this same old dogma is repeated like a brain washing mantra, stay in ISKCON Prabhu, serve the GBC, accept anything they say without any thought of your own.Be a zoombie.

Well I am not a zoombie. I am also in ISKCON.Though some think I am not.My Guru was also in ISKCON.Because he was a pure devotee, he was more in ISKCON than so many names,,,I can mention.He was never a ISKCON Guru that was chastised  by the GBC ;"Oh Maharaja we think you are not chanting 16 rounds".And then these disciples are also not chanting.What is the use of this show of bhakti???? Does Krsna only see the externals or the heart?

Was Gaurkisora Das babaji in ISKCON, do you honestly think he would live in any ISKCON temple for even a day????

HHHAHAHAHHAHA...think about it.Would Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada say oh yes just chant whenever you feel like it, or if you want too, or just to make a show of chanting.????

  Would Jagannatha das Babaji say of you have pedophiles in ISKCON,let me stay in the same temple as he.

Please think carefully  about this my dear Prabhus!A rupper stamp of Bhakti will not allow any of us entrance into Krsnas eternal association.

your servant

Paramananda das

ISKCON is only in line with Lord Caitanya to the degree we follow,and Lord Caitanyas instruction is also to chant one lakh, like it or not.

I have served in ISKCON almost my whole life, as many devotees have, oh you are not distributing the Jayadvatia Swami editions of the Gita, but  the books Srila Prabhupada himself used to read and write,  oh you are a demon Prabhu.....

to hell with all this institutional nonsense I can find that in any denomination, any dogma is there as well, can I however find strict adherence to Harinama Cintamani anywhere?  So  take you salary in ISKCON or steal or whatever you do , pretend to chant a few snick snack Ramas as Aindra Prabhu used to say...Lord Caitanya sees if we are doing a hoax or not.