Ramesvara a perfect example why a Guru should chant 64 rounds

[Paramananda das]

When the Guru is in Maya
I, unfortunately, had an ISKCON Guru that was in Maya and full of ulterior motives. He eventually fell down from Bhakti in 1998 as I had predicted to the GBC in 1996.He once asked me what if I do with my Salagrama and Govardhana Silas if I leave Krsna consciousness.I thought what a rascal,why would I ever leave Krsna consciousness. He eventually left stealing millions of dollars and married his own female disciple,be careful when you chose a Guru .Do not have anyone as Guru unless for example, he is chanting 64 rounds daily.Unless you are also chanting 64 rounds daily ,you are not qualified to be a disciple .Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada stated clearly anyone not chanting 64 rounds daily is fallen and is in maya,it is that simple
Srila Narotama das Thakura has stated and is recorded in Prema Vilasa
prabhura achaye sankhya tina laksha nama;
eka laksha bhaktagane kaila kripa dana.
"Lord Gauranga Mahaprabhu standard was to chant 3,00,000 names everyday. But He very mercifully awarded His devotees the process of chanting a minimum of 1,00,000 names of Krishna daily.
gauranga shrimukhe rupe kahila vaishnave;
laksha nama sankhya kari avasya karibe.
"Lord Gauranga gave the following instructions to all the Vaishnavas Himself and also through Shrila Rupa Goswami: Please compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna daily
ANY GURU NOT CHANTING 64 ROUNDS DAILY IS IN Maya any devotee not chanting 64 rounds daily is in Maya
HE PERFECTION OF LIFE IS TO GET THE DEGREE OF LAKSHESHVARA FROM LORD GAURANGA MAHAPRABHU HIMSELF
In Shri Chaitanya-bhagavata, Antya Khanda 9.121-122, Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu instructed everyone on whose worship and service He will accept:
(121) prabhu bale,-"jana, 'lakshesvara' bali kare?
prati-dina laksha-nama ye grahana kare"
"Do you know who is a laksesvara? He is someone who chants one laksa or 100,000 holy names (64 rounds of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra) everyday."
Purport by Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
shri gaurasundera balibena-"jini pratidina laksha-nama grahana karibena, tanharai grihe bhagavan sevita hana.
Shri Gaurasundera spoke as follows-"The Supreme Personality of Godhead accepts service only in the home of those who chant one hundred thousand names daily.
"bhagavan tanharai nikate bhoga-dravyadi grahana karena.
"The Lord accepts bhoga (foodstuffs) and other ingredients only from such personalities.
"jini laksha-nama grahana karena na, tahara nikate haite bhagavan naivedya svikara-dvara seva-saubhagya pradana karena na.
"Those who don't chant 100,000 names (64 rounds) daily, are never awarded the great fortune of rendering service to the Lord by offering Him naivedya (bhoga). This is because the Lord never accepts (svikara) their offerings.
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
"bhagavad-bhakta matrei pratyaha laksha-nama grahana karibena natuva vividha visaye asakta haiya bhagavad-seva karite asamartha haibena."
The Lord continued-"Those who consider themselves devotees of the Lord must compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna everyday otherwise they will gradually but surely become attached to varieties of sense-objects and thus become incapable to rendering any kind of service to the Lord."
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
tajjanyai shri chaitanyadevera ashrita sakalai nyuna kalpe laksha-nama grahana kariya thakena. natuva gaurasunderera udeshya pradatta naivedya tini grahana karibena na.
(Shrila Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada continues) "Therefore all the devotees who have taken shelter of Lord Chaitanyadeva perform the chanting of a minimum of 100,000 names of Krishna daily as their first and primary duty. Because they know that if they don't do so then Lord Gaurasundera will never accept the very bhoga (naivedya) which they cook for Him daily.
(122) "se janera nama ami bali 'lakshesvara'
tatha bhiksha amara, na yai anya ghara."
"Lord Gauranga continued-I call such a person a laksheshvara. I only accept meals in such a person's house. I never go anywhere else."
Purport by Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
shri chaitanya bhaktagana abhaktera sahita sambhashana karena na. jini bhaktivyatita karma, jnana o anyabhilashara kathaya pradatta tahara sahita bandhutva karibe na.
"The devotees of Lord Shri Chaitanya never talk with such non-devotees. They never do friendship with those who are engaged in the cultivation of karma, jnana or other desires which are devoid of bhakti.
pratyah laksha-nama grahana na karile patita vyaktiganera visaya-bhoga pravritti vriddhi paya, takhana ara tahara shri gaurasunderarera seva karite pare na.
"Those who don't accept this vow of chanting 100,000 names daily, fall down even more although they were fallen in the first place (due to the contamination of Kali-yuga). Thus their propensity for enjoying the senses and sense-objects continually and steadily increases and ultimately they are not able to render any kind of service even to the most merciful Lord Gaurasundera.
lakshesvara vyatita gaura-bhaktira adarsa gaudiyajana kehai svikara karena na.
"This is the precise reason why the real Gaudiya-bhaktas do not accept any other ideal (adarsa) in Gaura-bhakti or Krishna-bhakti except the process of chanting 100,000 names of the maha-mantra daily.
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
adhapatita va adhapete gana eka-matra bhajana-sabda-vacya shri-nama-bhajane vimukhata-vasata laksha-nama grahana karibara parivarte anya bhajanera chalana korena, taddvara tahadera kona mangala haya na.
"Those spiritual aspirants who are already fallen or will fall down from spiritual life in the future are averse to this sole means of deliverance called nama-bhajana, which is the worship of the sound incarnation of God in the form of chanting 100,000 names of the the Holy Names daily. Coming under the sway of their averseness to chant laksha-nama daily, they duplicitously invent (chalana) other means of devotional service (bhajana) to justify their not chanting 100,000 names daily but it is to be clearly understood that by this action they will not achieve anything auspicious (mangala) in their spiritual life."
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I think you explained that in case of my Yamuna ,these Mataji's are not ordinary,I recall in 1977 when I first read Srila Prabhupadas Bhagavad Gita I was so fascinated by Mother Jaduranis painting of Krsna and Arjuna, I could not get my mind of this painting for many many days ,mother Yamuna and Jadurani and Srila Prabhupada had so many talented female discipels
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I am sorry you keep insisting that none of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples are qualified unless they chant 64 rounds daily. That is you mental misunderstanding that Srila Prabhupada changed it as Founder-Acarya - which he is empowered to change/. And declared that his disciples are qualified when they chant 16 rounds daily

If you want to leave our Srila Prabhupada, join the Gaudiya Math and chant 64 rounds daily- that is wonderful for you

But don’t think you know better or more than our Srila Prabhupada when he instructed to chant 16 rounds daily

Please stop inserting your contrary message of threads for our Srila Prabhupada disciples and followers

It is not good for you to declare that no one is qualified who isn’t changing 64 rounds. Please keep that to yourself and your own separate Math
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let me ask you one thing did you fall down as an ISKCON Guru ?
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yes or no ?
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how many of your godbrothers fell down from sannyasa ?
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some became pedophiles like Kirtananda
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and homosexuals
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like Bhavananda, Satadhanya,
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you do not think there might have been some offenses to Sri Nama Prabhu there ?
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why have you all fallen down ?
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ask yourself ?
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you are back after so many years
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you have no position in ISKCON
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no disciples
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what have you done since 1986?
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you were part of chanting Srila Prabhupadas books by your own admission
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changing
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I have distributed Srila Prabhupadas books since I joined in 1979 you have not
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so take your false ego somewhere else
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I am big big Prabhupada disciple just does not fly with me
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Harikesa was like you arrogant and neophyte
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he left with millions and married his own female disciple
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yes you all need to clean your hearts and chant more Hare Krsna
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Robert
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I did not have a gross fall down but I did require changing Ashrams

You have no idea what service I have been doing for many years, what service I currently do and frankly, since you admittedly are outside of ISKCON, why do you even care? Certainly not as a well-wisher. Certainly as a person who seems addicted to finding faults
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follow Srila Prahbupadas Adi Vani
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who said i am outside of ISKCON ?
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I never said that
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I just do not agree with deviations from Srila Prahbupada such as you are promoting women lib
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and female Gurus
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against Srila Prabhupada and our sampradaya
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Robert
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By you waning every Prabhupāda disciple for not chanting 64 rounds you are clearly outside of ISKCON, trying to impose your views above Srila Prabhupada
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that is just some New age California nonsense
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Srila Prabhupada encouraged more chanting
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and he tried to establish 64 rounds in ISKCON
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but his disciples refused to obey
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simple as that
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Robert
Robert Grant
Spell check: by you “demeaning” every disciple…

Please kindly stop writing to me as I don’t want to continue discussing these topics with you
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you are deviating from Srila Prabhupada I have no use or need of your association
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I do not appriciate those who offend Srila Prabhupada by introduing women lib
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now you have beads you will chant 64 rounds, Srila Prabhupadas Adi Vani from 1966 -67
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it is to much
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ok minimum 32
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oh that we can not do
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ok minimum 16
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so cheaters
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watering down the proscess
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you are a neophyte fool and rascal number 1
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your falldown was associtating with a minor girl that you took to a movie while you were a GBC and sannyasi
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had you been busy chanting 64 rounds there would have been no space in yoru brain for such nonsense
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I am the one in ISKCON you are not
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Seen by Robert Grant at 11:12 AM
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if we love Srila Prabhupada Lord Caitanya and Lord Krsna we will also take to chanting 64 rounds daily ,most will not ok at least let them do 16 but even that much most can not chant properly ,after being a devotee for 50 years and only chant still 16 rounds shows zero advancement.Srila Prabhupada said always increase your chanting never Decrease
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you should really read Harinama Cintamani
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[Paramananda das]

Prahbupada disciples have been demeaning non Prabhupada discipels for years, how does it feel to be on the other side of the stick ? Maybe it is Karma ,yes it is
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we are Prabhupadas disciples we are God ,we hate , non discipels of Prabhupada we also hate Srila Prahbupadas godbrothers, that is the mood of many disciples of Srila Prabhupada it is sad offensive and arrogant and demoniac
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you talk about demeaning ? Bhavananda had sex with boys in Mayapure Guru kula with Nitai Chand Swami and Satadhanya and sometimes their rectum needed to be stiched, and these rascals are still in Mayapure Bhavwill you be part of covering this up to ? To protect your "exalted Godbrothers ananda and Satadhanya

[Paramananda das]

you also send men to help locate Sulocana Prabhu when he was murdered, no wonder you fell down

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maybe you should send some men to have me killed also ?

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that is how things used to be in ISKCON ,expose the corrupt leaders and get killed

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not that I think you have not learned that lesson

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and must regret it

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though you will not admit it

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Harikesa treatened me I would be murdered by Bhavanandas men if I exposed him ,I am still not afraid to this day

[Paramananda das]

for your information in 2004 Srila Prabhupada came to me in my dreams every night for a week and said I want you be only in my ISKCON and help me protect my ISKCON , I said Srila Prabhupada I have no faith in your disciples, he said you take shelter of me only but you must remain in ISKCOn and worship me and Lrod Caitanya
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and he instructed me to protect ISKCON to the best of my ability from deviations
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so I try in my small way those who have brain can understand the brainless remain attached to dogma and neophyte understanding