question about the personality of the rope in Damodara lila and the grinding mortar

[Paramananda das]

Hare Krishna Prabhuji,
Thanks for being there and all your effort to spread the message of Lord Caitanya.
Do you have an idea of the personalities who took the form of wooden morta and the rope that Mother Yasoda used in binding Lord Krishna?
Your servant,
Bhakti Vasudeva Swami

Maharaja that is an amazing question,I will ask many authorities about that.it is said even that milk is also a person,and because it could not be used in Krsnas service as He wanted to drink Mother Yasodas breast milk,it jumbed in to the fire by over boiling thus commiting suicide.
Maharaja I will do my very best to get you the answer.
Please give me few days
your humbl;e servant
 Paramananda das

Pranams Maharaja
I asked some devotees in Vraja, so far no one seems to know ,all I know is about the milk I have mentioned.
But we should also offer our pranams to the mortar, the rope and this place of the lila..Lila sthali, this place is in Gokula , and close to Nanda bhavan.I hope you can visit it one day, if you have not ben there.I hope I can show you Mahavana and Gokula one day if we meet in Vrindavana.
your servant
 

[Paramananda das]

this grinding mortar is still there:
Yamalarjuna Bhanga (Utkhal—Grinding Mortar)
This is where the Damodara pastime took place and where Krishna delivered Nalakuvara and Manigriva, the sons of Kuvera, the treasurer of the demigods, by knocking over or breaking (bhanga) the two twin arjuna trees.

Utkhal is where Krishna was tied to the grinding mortar by mother Yasoda. Utkhal means “grinding mortar.” Embedded in the stone here is a small grinding mortar.

Nanda Maharaja’s well is directly across the road from here (about 16m or 50 ft away). It is called Sapta Samadrika Kupa, or “the well of seven oceans.” You have to climb up a small hill, 5m (15 ft) high, to the small building next to the well.

How To Get Here The grinding mortar (utkhal) is in a small hut-like concrete building, about half a km from the Nanda Bhavan temple in Old Gokula. If you just left the Nanda Bhavan temple going toward Brahmanda Ghata, the first buildings that you come to on the right is this place. From the outside this place looks like someone’s home. On the other side of the street you can see a small building on a little hill. This is the building next to Nanda Maharaja’s well.

Damodara Pastime
“Mother Yasoda took her son on her lap and pushed the nipples of her breasts into His mouth. And while Krishna was sucking the milk, she was smiling enjoying the beauty of her child’s face. Suddenly, the milk, which was on the oven, began to boil over. Just to stop the milk from spilling, mother Yasoda at once put Krishna aside and went to the oven. Left in that state by His mother, Krishna became very angry, and His lips and eyes became red in rage. He pressed His teeth and lips, and taking up a piece of stone, He immediately broke the butter pot. He took butter out of it, and with false tears in His eyes, he began to eat the butter in a secluded place.

“In the meantime, mother Yasoda returned to the churning place after setting the overflowing milk pan in order. She saw the broken pot in which the churning yogurt was kept. Since she could not find her boy, she concluded that the broken pot was His work. She began to smile as she thought, ‘The child is very clever. After breaking the pot He has left this place, fearing punishment.’ After she sought all over, she found a big wooden grinding mortar, which was kept upside down, and she found her son sitting on it. He was taking butter that was hanging from the ceiling on a swing, and He was feeding it to the monkeys. She saw Krishna looking this way and that way in fear of her because He was conscious of His naughty behavior. After seeing her son so engaged, she very silently approached Him from behind. Krishna, however, quickly saw her coming at Him with a stick in her hand, and immediately He got down from the grinding mortar and began to flee in fear.

“Mother Yasoda then chased Krishna and eventually caught him. She then attempted to tie him up with a rope to a wooden grinding mortar. But when she tried to bind Him, she found that the rope she was using was too short—by two inches. She gathered more ropes from the house and added to it, but at the end she found the same shortage. In attempting to bind her son, she became tired. She was perspiring, and the garland on her head fell down. Then Lord Krishna appreciated the hard labor of His mother, and being compassionate upon her, He agreed to be bound up by the ropes. Krishna, playing as a human child in the house of mother Yasoda, was performing His own selected pastimes” (Krishna Book,. 9).

“According to Srila Sanatana Gosvami’s Vaishnava Tosani, the incident of Krishna breaking the pot of yogurt, and being bound by mother Yasoda took place on Dipawali Day or Dipa-malika. This festival is celebrated very gorgeously in the month of Kartika by fireworks and lights.” (Srimad Bhag. 10.9.2 purport)

“Oh Lord Damodara, in Your form as a baby Mother Yasoda bound You to a grinding stone with a rope for tying cows. You then freed the sons of Kuvera, Manigriva and Nalakuvera, who were cursed to stand as trees, and You gave them the chance to become Your devotees. Please bless me in the same way. I have no desire for liberation into your effulgence.” (Sri Damodara Asthtakam 7)

[Paramananda das]

this is from Jada Bharat Prabhus book:

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[Paramananda das]

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picures from Gokula and Mahavana

[Paramananda das]

response: actually it has not been mentioned anywhere in sastra I have seen,nor have I read this in the Sarartha Darshini commentaries of Srila Visvanath Chakravati or in the commentaries of Srila Sanatana Goswami known as Dig-Darsini-Tika by Srila Sanatana Gosvami nor have I seen

this in the Haribhakti Vilasa