the lonely passion

[Paramananda das]

 the lonely passion and illicit sex, questions by a PH.D student, devotee from India

dear devotees

Please accept my humble obaisences

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

 Today one young Indian male devotee asked me about how to give up his lonely passion and watching porn on the internet.

.Last year I discussed this with another devotee.But

someone thought I was not strong enough about it so I will not compromise this time.And give it as it is.

 Everyone is troubled by sex desires this is confirmed in Srimad Bhagavatam, the question is what will we do when such desires come to the mind.

(see Gita 2.70 and Gita 3.6 at least if one does not act on such sinful desires as in Kali yuga offences in the mind is not as serious as doing them)

It is part of the material body, there is however many tips to control sex desires, for example Bhakti Vikas Maharaja has presented this in the 

Brahmacari book ,most basically based on Srila Prabhupadas instructions.In Bhagavad Gita Krsna has stated: Dhyato visayan 

and lets look at some other purports and verses in  Bhagavad Gita  .

However one thing not really mentioned much in the Brahmacari book and which in my eyes make this book incomplete is that Srila Prabhupada

has recommended to chant 64 rounds also as a solution to overcome sexual desires.However chanting without the proper diet   will not make one 

succeed, so it is a constant struggle to control the senses, but the more we love Krsna and remember Him the more sex life will become distasteful.

Sex life starts with the lonely passion and from there so much other nonsense starts.Sex life is only for begetting children within marriage.

However many present it for unlimited sex with ones wife, this is a demoniac philosophy. There is difference between grhamedhis and grhasthas.

The solution or a big part of the solution of the lonely passion is simply to chant 64 rounds daily(minimum 16) and avoid the 10 offences to the holy name.  

This is the most important solution .There is no other way in Kali yuga than chanting.So time to turn of the computers and simply chant.Actually

browsing the internet for porn is a very low class way of enjoyment, and if one does this as this one devotee.Better to only use the computer in a

 public place(as this may decrease such a bad habit) .Life is short and one  needs to overcome this lonely passion, and any form of illicit sex life.

  And being a sannyasi or GBC or TP does not  mean having overcome this simply by having this title, even Lord Brahma was tested by maya.But

 in Lord Caitanyas lilas he came as Haridas Thakura and showed us how to chant 192 rounds daily.The question is will chanting 64 rounds alone

help one control ones sex impulses.

If we take shelter of Krsna in the form of the holy name, this is the only real way, begging Krsna

to help us control our senses..Kirtaniya sada harih.So why should there be lonely passion if we can simply chant Hare Krsna?.The problem starts when

one stops chanting..ceto darpana marjanam.Junior Haridas was rejected by Lord Caitanya though likely he was chanting a lot being in the association

of Lord Caitanya but merciful Lord Caitanya showed us through Junior Haridasa to be careful in the association of the opposite sex.

 There was the case of one sannyasi caught sub coming to the lonely passion here in ISKCON, and some have fallen away and some married their own

 female disciples .So we need to be serious about chanting.In married life ,Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has advised to daily chant 64 rounds for grhasthas.

He said one will become a sat grhastha by doing so.Now adays many do not even chant their 16 rounds, and refuse to observe ekadasi, and also take grains

on Visnutattva days.Or simply just brake all Visnutattva fasts by taking grains on these apperance days. These are very sad things.Actually one of

 the angas of Bhakti is to strictly observe these days by increased hearing and chanting.The more we hear and chant about Krsna the more we will

overcome repeated birth and death.This is not something we can fail in.This requires us to be 100 % serious and surrendered, this is all up to us.

One last advise is for brahmacaries avoid those" grhasthas "that are not strict, for grhasthas really be one  strict KC couple and 

avoid sleeping in the same room 

as ones wife.(Srila Prabhupada mentioned in Vrindavan that those who sleep in the same room as their wife ,fall down in that room also, Srila Prabhupada

told this to Brahmananda and others)

For sannyasis avoiding all women(including Internet and mail correspondence) a secretary can read it out loud to the sannyasi if this is an

 important question,nor should sannyasis be match makers...absolutely no alone time in the office with 'Matajis" we have seen this many times..

talking for hours to women all alone.They have all the time for talking to women but not any time for the other Prabhus..got the picture..

   and for all asramas constant chanting.

And by the way divorce is not an option for strict devotees

Is this not not strong enough? How about ; the pleasures of the material temporary genitals are not equal to serving Krsna in Krsna loka.

Mattir na Krsna...it is about time to stop chewing the chewed and take shelter of Krsnas lotusfeet.We all need to try our very best not to

become servants of lust, but of Krsna that conquers lust Madanmohan,along with Madanmohan -Mohini(Sri Radha) 

your servant

Payonidhi das

PS I like to add Srila Prabhupada in several letters wrote that those who are his disciples must all follow 4 regs and chant minimum 16 rounds otherwise they are not his disciples