Sastra Caksusa

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dear Braja Bihari Prabhu

Please accept my humble obaisences
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
Srila Prabhupada was very specific about divorce it is not allowed in KC.Bhakta Vidyasagar asked you  if Ramabhadra is engaging in sinful activities by
being remarried.And you said no.But the answer is yes.
In your ISKCON society, do you allow for divorce?
Srila Prabhupada: There is no question of separation. There is no question of divorce. (Lecture: SB, 1975)
We don't allow divorce; once they're married, there is no separation. (Interview: NY Times, New Vrindavan, 9-2-72)
Q. But isn't it necessary to have divorce as a legal option?
Srila Prabhupada: The divorce act is encouraging prostitution, and this should be abolished. (SB 1.17.38) In Vedic civilization the husband and wife were not separated by such man-made laws as divorce. We should understand the necessity for maintaining family life in human society and should thus abolish this artificial law known as divorce. (SB 4.23.25)...there is no such thing as divorce in the Vedic literature. A wife is always trained to be chaste and faithful to her husband, for this helps her achieve deliverance from any abominable material condition (SB 9.20.22)
Q. What if a woman simply cannot tolerate her husband any longer?
Srila Prabhupada: Generally, separation between husband and wife is due to womanly behavior; divorce takes place due to womanly weakness. The best course for a woman is to abide by the orders of her husband. That makes family life very peaceful. Sometimes there may be misunderstandings between husband and wife...but a wife should not leave her husband's protection because of such misunderstanding. If she does so, it is understood to be due to her womanly weakness. (SB 4.4.3)
What is this nonsense, divorce? There is no such thing in the Vedic civilization, divorce. You must accept whatever God has given you as husband or wife, you must. They had no thinking even, idea of divorce. One may not agree with the husband.. That is natural. Sometimes we do not agree. But there is no question of divorce. (Room Conversation, Baltimore , 7-7-76)
Q. Isn't it unreasonable to expect a woman to remain enslaved in a dysfunctional marriage?
Srila Prabhupada: In the modern day, the wife is never submissive, and therefore homelife is broken even by slight incidents. Either the wife or the husband may take advantage of the divorce laws. According to the Vedic law, however, there is no such thing as divorce laws, and a woman must be trained to be submissive to the will of her husband. Westerners contend that this is a slave mentality for the wife, but actually it is not; it is the tactic by which a woman can conquer the heart of her husband, however irritable or cruel he may be. (SB 9.3.10)
Krsna explained the duty of a woman. He also stressed the point of serving the husband: "Even if he is not of very good character, or even if he is not very rich or fortunate, or even if he is old or invalid on account of continued diseases, whatever the husband's condition, a woman should not divorce her husband if she actually desires to be elevated to the higher planetary systems after leaving this body." (Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead , Ch. 29)
And the girl agrees to serve the boy for life. There is no question of divorce. (Lecture, SB, 1973)
Q. But what if two people simply aren't compatible?
Srila Prabhupada: In Krsna consciousness marriages there is no question of any separation or divorce. Any disagreement between husband and wife is not taken seriously, as much as disagreement between children is not taken very seriously.(Letter)
So one should tolerate these things. If there is some misunderstanding they should not go to the court for divorce. They should tolerate. These are some of the rules for spiritual advancement. (Lecture, Bg, 1966)
And therefore in the human society there is marriage. Not in the animal society. Married means that one should be satisfied with one woman and one man. That's all. And there is no question of divorce. Divorce is introduced by the modern rascals, but it is not sanctioned by any religious person. You see? (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, 1971)
...combined together for life. There was no question of divorce. There was no question of divorce. Even if they fight. Fight there must be....Therefore Canakya Pandita says, dam pate kalahe caiva bambharambe laghu kriya. Whenever there is fight between husband and wife it should be neglected. (Lecture, SB 1968)
In Krsna consciousness marriages there is no question of any separation or divorce.. Any disagreement between husband and wife is not taken seriously, as much as disagreement between children is not taken very seriously. (Letter)
Q. But what if a couple simply no longer love each other?
Srila Prabhupada: That is also animalism. Just like a dog having sex intercourse with another female dog, and another, another, another. It is another animalism. (Conversation) So this marriage is not for sense gratification.. We should always remember. It is helping one another. The husband will help the wife, the wife will help the husband so that both of them become advanced in Krsna consciousness and make their human life perfect. So there is no question of divorce. There is no question of separation. Because divorce, separation, these are meant for sense gratification. (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, 1969)
So our, this new bride and bridegroom should always remember that in any condition of life they should remain together. And that will be possible if they concentrate their ideas to Krsna consciousness....You should always remember that this marriage has no separation, no divorce. Lifetime. (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, 1969)
This Krsna conscious marriage does not mean sense gratification. Once married, there is no question of divorce or separation. That you should remember. We don't allow any divorce and separation. (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, 1972)
...the present bride and bridegroom must know it certainly that this marriage is not for sense gratification. This marriage is for purification of life. So there is no question of divorce. There is no question of separation. So don't get into married life if you have got such propensity. (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, 1968)
Q. It seems that at least in some circumstances divorce must be permitted.
Srila Prabhupada: There is no question of divorce or separation. In any condition of life, happiness or distress, you shall continue as husband and wife because our main business is Krsna consciousness....It is not for sense gratification. So in this way there is no question of separation or divorce. (Lecture, Initiation/Wedding, Boston, 1968)
There is no question of. We do not know what is divorce. In our country there is no divorce, at least in Hindu law. Yes. Wife and husband, once combined that is for life. There is no question of separation, in all circumstances. Either in distress or in happiness, there is no question of separation. (Lecture, 1969)
Still India ...95% people living, husband and wife, very peacefully. And in the Western countries, after six months' marriage, divorce. Are they not fourth class? Even the husband and wife cannot continue peaceful life, what to speak of others. Now this rascal Nehru has introduced divorce in the Hindu society.. Otherwise, in the Hindu society separation between husband and wife is not even dreamt of. That, it cannot be. However there may be quarrelsome, but there is no question of separation. Husband and wife, they fight everywhere. I have seen. My father and mother was fighting. I fought. (laughter) But there is no question of separation. Separation, they never think. Neither the husband can think of, nor the wife can think of. (Conversation, Perth , 5-19-75)
Q. But in cases where the husband and wife fight, surely we should allow for divorce.
Srila Prabhupada: They may fight. The husband and wife fighting, that is not unusual. Therefore, Canakya Pandit says, "Fight between husband, wife, never take it seriously. Dam pate kalahe caiva bambharambe lagu kriya. They'll make all arambha but it is not very important. Don't take [seriously]. Next moment they will again live peacefully. So according to Indian culture there is no divorce. There is no question of divorce. (Morning Walk, Nairobi , 11-2-75)
In India there is no question of divorce. So nobody takes very serious care when there is fight between husband and wife. So there also: "I'm going to immediately leave you, going to kill you..." and so many things. But after an hour everything is finished. No more quarrel. Dam pate kalahe caiva prabhate megha dumbune...(Lecture SB, 1973)
Canakya Pandita said: bambharambe laghu kriya. The husband and wife may fight. It becomes a very serious thing, but don't take of it as serious. This is Hindu philosophy. Husband and wife quarrel should not be taken as very serious. They fight and again they live peacefully. Why this divorce? Divorce means it kills the whole family life. The children goes away; the father goes away; the mother goes away. I have seen so many cases. (Conversation, Perth , 5-14-75)
Equal Rights for Women = Demoniac
1. Equal rights is nonsense. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
2. It will be failure. (Arrival Lecture: Philadelphia , 7/11/75)
3. Equal rights is claimed by rascal Westerners. (Morning Walk: Ahmedabad, 9/25/75)
4. By equal rights women are killing their own child. (Letter: Ed Gilbert, Vrindavan, 9/9/75)
5. I am not trying for equal rights. (Television Interview: Chicago , 7/9/75)
6. Rascals give equal rights. (Morning Walk: Los Angeles , 6/27/75)
7. If you want equal rights then stop giving birth to a child. (Morning Walk: Perth , 5/75)
8. Why you are accepting this nonsense philosophy? (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
9. The equal rights movement is a means by which men cheat the women. (SSR, 1)
10. This equal rights philosophy is very appealing [to] fools and rascal. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
11. Equal rights is not allowed in the Vedic sastra. (Bg. 16.7: Hawaii , 2/3/75)
12. Regardless of attempts for equality, unequality there must remain. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
13. Equal rights is not Vedic idea. (SB 1.8.51: Los Angeles , 5/13/73)
14. It is not possible—it is not possible.. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
15. Where is the benefit of equal rights? (Room Conversation after Press Conference: Chicago , 7/9/75)
16. Equal rights will not help the human society. (Conversation [regarding the philosophies of B.F. Skinner & Henry David Thoreau])
17. How she can be happy? That is not possible. (Bg. Lecture: Ahmedabad, 12/8/72)
18. Equal rights is very grave problems. (SB 1.16.7: Los Angeles , 1/4/74)
19. You cannot make equality. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
20. That is not Vedic civilization. (SB 7.9.24: Mayapur, 3/2/76)
21. Do not artificially try to become equal with men. (Bg. 16.7: Hawaii , 2/3/75)
22. There cannot be equality, Sir. You are talking nonsense. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
23. Equal rights is an artificial introduction to human society. (Conversation [regarding a theory of Bertrand Russell])
24. Equal rights is rascaldom philosophy. (Morning Walk: Rome , 5/29/74)
25. It is already failure.(Arrival Lecture: Philadelphia , 7/11/75)
26. Equal rights is impossible (Cc. Adi. 17.44)
Western civilization is a rascal civilization. I do not take they are civilized even. No. White aborigines. That's all. (Morning Walk: January 24, 1977, Bhubaneswar)
"So this dasi-pati, this is also significant word, "the prostitute's husband." Prostitute means... They are, in Sanskrit, called pumscali. Pumscali means they are moved by other men, umsacli. There are three kinds of women: [sairini,] sairindhri, pumscali...In this way there are divisions. So some women, they are very easily carried by men. So that is not very good. Therefore I am instructing our GBCs that "Let our little girls be educated to become faithful and chaste." That is their qualification. No education required. And the boys should be trained up to become first-class men, samo damas titiksa, like that. And literary, Sanskrit and English, that will make them perfect. If the husband is first class and the wife is chaste and faithful, then the home is heaven." (Lecture: SB 6.1.31; San Francisco, July 16, 1975)
Jesus Christ and the Bible is very specific also:
Matthew 5:32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
  • another time he stated:
  • And I tell you this, whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery--unless his wife has been unfaithful."
The GBC also in 2005 gave permission for women to be diksa Gurus this in violation with Srila Prabhupadas teachings, so there is
persons on the GBC that are remarried and they also teach women can  be Gurus this is deviant philosophy
your servant
Paramananda das

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Comment by Paramananda das on December 26, 2012 at 7:27am

but women should not tolerate abuse or or infidelity of her husband ,if he is fallen she can leave him and not remarry


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