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response to Basu Ghosh about Srila Narayana Maharaja

Thank you Basu Ghosh  , I read it carefully ,the fact is I do not care much about the opinions of this Gaudiya math,they are deviant too.How you may ask? They teach grhasthas who live outside ,just do minimum 4 rounds ,what is there adhhikari to understand Ujjvala Nilamani? Ujvala Nilamani and such books are for advanced devotees, but no to be ignored it is a continuation of Bhaktirasamrta Sindhu also by Srila Rupa Goswami ,it is wonderful book,I have read it many times.But my focus is on Bhaktirasamrta Sindhu ,.Srila Sridhara Swami did in fact read such books, but did not advertise it,,this is what I have heard in other places,if not it was his loss .Srila Narottama das Thakura has advised in Gauranga Bolite habe,when will I become eager to study the books of the Goswamis...so do you think no one is qualified.Just because some is not qualified does nto mean everyone else is in that group.Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada advised first you chant 64 rounds and gradually you should understand also
the books of the acaryas and Goswamis (including rasa sastra) however for someone that does not chant 64 rounds minimum,what is the use? For us we have to first keep studing Srila Prabhupadas books over and over, also Nectar of instruction,and the CC....the CC is very important, and if one carefully understands that one can not understand Radha Krsna without going through the mercy of Lord Caitanya one will gradually understand Radha Krsna.Srila Prabhupada has also advised studying Krsna Bhavanamrta...but if we are not also fully engaged in studying Teaching of Lord Caitanya and Krsna book, which Srila Prabhupada mentions in this connection, in the chapter about Uddhava going to Vrindavana.Then this is jumping over Srila Prabhupada....NM is not a sahajiya he is on the path of ragamarg...and is qualified to be.For those impudent persons to claim otherwise is their own spiritual suicide..they are neophytes, they do not preach , they do not chant, they do not even have much interest in Srimad Bhagavatam.But they fault NM.Enviousness....SB 1.1.2 ..Bhakti has to be devoid of envy.Why they do not do
Vraja Mandala Parikrama year after year like Narayana Maharaja...they are not on his level.I kindly advise you to not hear the propaganda of such envious asuras.First go on sankirtana ,Harinama and bookdistribution, and chant 64 rounds read Srila Prabhupadas books over and over again,I am listening to his lectures from the CC now every day, sometimes 5 to 8 lectures.
By engaging in preaching one gets the adhikara to understand Lord Caitanya and by also intensely studying and preaching,however the lazy envious neophytes that just find faults goes to hell.Without 64 rounds minimum however if one claims to be engaged in Ragamarg he is a sahajiya..this is Kali yuga Prabhu most are so lazy, manda sumanda...I protested to the
ragamarg of Tamal Krsna Maharaja and others to Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja in 1991-92., due to their not having accepted also preaching fully with personal sacrifices ,where they go out and set the example, by also doing Harinaam and bookdistribution, and
chanting 64 rounds a day, their questions to Narayana Maharaja where sincere, but they never took his advise to become humble and chant 64 rounds ....thus they had no adhikara in my humble opinion,now look aT Satsvarupa...NM warned him against Stri Sanga..I can give you the link.Our ISKCON leaders are mostly like these lazy Gaudiya Maths..they do nothing ,no Harinama no preaching ands they make offences to pure devotee liek NM..thius said>. NM style of initiating is not what Srila Prabhupada taught,one should wait at least 6 months to a year, and then..anyhow practically all ISKCON Gurus accepts disciples let them do the work and then take the credit for their hard devotional labot ,this form of pratistha is useless for Bhakti,NM travels in his old age trying to preach ...he encourages devotees everywhere to be strong in KC, chant do Kirtana, distribute Srila Prabhupada books (but mostly his own),His books are not for the average devotee .Some of the brightest devotees from ISKCON have joined NM,very sadly ,but others are envious and only sees through the lense of envy.Those who have no interest in the sweet lilas of Radha Krsna also are simply useless like stool.... be concerned with you godbrothers like Hrdayananda that "lovingly embraces " women ,this is not sannyasa...be embarrassed with the GBC allowing Satsvarupa staying a sannyasi after having had illicit sex
with his own female disciples , this is not religion .No bonafide Sampradaya allows vantasis to stay a sannyasi....lets focus on this issue,why divert the attention away from this issue?There are eternal religiuous principles..to be upheld.Satsvarupa wrote a sex novel ; and NM reads and translate Ujjvala Nilamani....they are not on the same level and you Prabhupada disciples better get this
straight...that his disciples should first all chant 64 rounds also as he has instructed ,which he learned from Bhakti Prajana Kesava Maharaja and that accepted this from Srila Bhaktissidhanta Prabhupada.Gaudiya Samiti..is the best part of IGaudiya math.And All ISKCON leaders like yourself better stop finding faults with NM and stop looking at your own and the faults in ISKCON.Please stop being envious of NM..at least do nto waste my time with such self destruction and offences of an exalted vaisnava.Srila Prabhupada loved NM..he told NM in 1977 ,I have caught a net of monkeys. Here we monekeys in ISKCON supports another moneky vantasi to stay a Guru and sannyasi...stop this blasphemy.My humble advise once more, we must chant 64 rounds and all members in ISKCON should make themselves usefull and distribute Prabhupadas books, not become a kanistha Guru or remain one ,we do not need to go to NM to learn ragamarg,Prabhupada has given it all.Our focus is preaching .
Ragamarg is for a few for internal practise...I practise what I preach.I can also tell you something about the worship of Giriraja and the importance along with chanting 64 rounds...but you nectar is such faultfinding of NM?Lets focus on things in ISKCON.NM is not our concern.Lets focus on how to improve ISKCON and stop demigod worship,Satya Narayan pujas reading of Ramacarita Manasa, leaders and other socalled from just using ISKCON to pocket money,these are our real concerns and how to increase the bookdistribution in ISKCON ,how to build Mayapure temple as Srila Prabhupada desired.I do not want to hear about NM please
only how we can improve ISKCON.If you are trying to prove something else with this line of posting... I know you hate NM ,who cares.I have no time...to hear you offences to him.Be concerned saving your sannyasa godbrother that condone Gay marriage.we are in ISKCON and our busienss is service to Sril;a Prabhupada. Prabhupada did not care about Gaudiya math much ,they can only harm us was his advise .I do not care about Gaudiya math kindly do not waste my time in this way...



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Getting Beyond Narayan-Crippling, Insuperable Sahajiyaism of An Infant Class
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By Bhakti Sudhir Goswami Maharaj

An Open Letter to the disciples, grand-disciples, appreciators and aspiring
followers of His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami
Maharaja.

In response to a letter regarding the travesty of misrepresentation of Srila
Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami and requests that I clarify the position
of Srila Guru Maharaja and His Divine Grace Srila Bhakti Sundar Govinda
Dev-Goswami Maharaja for their bonafide followers especially concerning
studying, translating, commenting upon and publishing confidential
literature such as Ujjval Nilamani, Gita Govinda etc.

Getting Beyond Narayan (Ragodaya Kuñcati1)

The Crippling, Insuperable Sahajiyaism of An Infant Class Vaishnava

This gentleman and his followers isolate quotes from context making
mountains out of molehills to justify deviating from the line of Srila
Saraswati Thakur but all things considered, the most telling
counter-argument is that the person whom Srila Saraswati Thakur proclaimed
"represents me fully" Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami did not even
read such literature himself. Srila Guru Maharaja reveals, "...we have not
gone through the higher teachings of Rupa Goswami — this Ujjval Nilamani and
othersR.""Srila Guru Maharaja has seen the result in Srila Saraswati
Thakur's senior disciples and their followers — how they fell down —
therefore he was even stricter, ‘you may be qualified but still you cannot
do that.'

That was Srila Guru Maharaja's opinion." — Srila Govinda MaharajaIn the time
of Srila Saraswati Thakur there was one Ramdas Babaji whom the people of
Braja Mandal considered to be a siddha-mahatma. He chanted three lakhs of
Krishna-nama daily (192 rounds) incessantly engaged in hearing and
explaining Goswami literature, strictly observed all of the aspects of
Vaishnava sadachar (behavior and practice) and was known to be of impeccable
character.
When Srila Saraswati Thakur concluded the Braja Mandal Parikrama he dashed
his palm against his forehead lamenting, 'I have just toured the whole of
Vrindavan and I am so unfortunate I could not find a single Vaishnava!' His
followers were perplexed, 'What about Ramdas Babaji?' His response was even
more shocking, 'He may be considered as a beginner with admission in the
infant class.' Who is considered unanimously to be a siddha [to have
achieved perfection] R Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur told he has got
admission into the primary class (kanistha-adhikari) — and not only at that
time but later in Patrika, in writing he told that — in Gaudiya Patrika. And
we are trained accordingly and consciously — not blind faith. He explained
to us what is what. And we try to follow his direction. And we have also
come to such conclusion. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
If someone chanting three lakhs, absorbed in Goswami literature, strictly
observing Vaishnava sadachar and of impeccable character is in the infant
class, then what are we? Spiritual embryos — at best.

How shall we determine who is a substantial Vaishnava and who is a
charlatan? Srila Guru Maharaja says, "One who has got recognition from a
Vaishnava is a Vaishnava." Srila Guru Maharaja got such recognition from
Srila Saraswati Thakur and Srila Swami Maharaja Prabhupada and other senior
Godbrothers. Whom you refer is not only lacking certification but is a great
offender to the lotus feet of Srila Guru Maharaja (Srila Bhakti Rakshak
Sridhar Dev-Goswami). Additionally, he is adulterating the worldwide Krishna
consciousness movement with sahajiyaism under the guise of 'Gaudiya Math.'
Without authority, he is translating, commenting upon, and distributing
confidential literature forbidden by Srila Saraswati Thakur.

In deference to his spiritual connections formal respect has been shown but
for the edification of the aspiring devotional community a spade must be
called a spade and sahajiya must be identified as sahajiya. And this is not
only sahajiyaism but it is textbook sahajiyaism. According to Srila Guru
Maharaja "one who thinks that A is B or B is A commits the worse kind of
error." It is a perverted reflection of the highest thing and symptomatic of
the worst type of ignorance. It is ontologically upside down lacking even
trace amounts of spiritual substance. To imitate lower things would be
preferable. It is Srila Guru Maharaja's opinion that imitationists are more
dangerous than oppositionists. Even the fallen are in a better position,
"Who is better off, a poor man or a thief? A poor man or one who has false
wealth (counterfeit currency)?"

What is sahajiya? In a word: imitation. And sahajiyas are those whom
counterfeit spiritual substance. They are busy with the reflection, not the
substantial thing. They formally accept everything but want easy entrance
into the higher plane. In a short time they want to climb the peak of the
mountain; overnight they want to become gopis. The sahajiya guru gives the
impression that he has achieved an exalted stage of devotion but according
to Srila Guru Maharaja not only are they lacking in substance but, "are born
offenders" because they envy actual devotees of Krishna. They covet their
devotion but are not prepared to pay the price (self-sacrifice —
atma-samarpanam).

This gentleman and followers claim that the prohibitions of our guru-varga
are "instructions for neophytes," implying they are substantial devotees.
Their personified antithesis is Srila Sridhar Maharaja who, though supremely
qualified, even in his nineties declared emphatically, "I am a student. The
healthy wholesome position is that of a student. Everyone should try to
remain a student for eternity. Mahaprabhu Himself does not say that he is
perfect; no Goswamis have claimed that they are perfect — what is this!"

Wayward followers of Srila Swami Maharaja Prabhupada, frustrated with the
utter simplicity and purity of his teachings and lacking a personal dynamic
in their own spiritual life are being duped by a quisling impersonating a
disciplic descendent of Srila Saraswati Thakur. From the dregs of
misconception, they have catapulted into "gopi-dom" via his specious
"mañjari-bhava." Incidentally, "mañjari-bhava," the codeword of
prakrta-sahajiyas, is found nowhere in the works of the Goswamins, Narottam,
Vishwanath or Bhaktivinode — it is only in sahajiya writings. [Rupa Goswami
uses the term bhavollasa-rati — once.] It is a voyeuristic projection into
madhura-rasa, a misconception pregnant with implications. Neophyte devotees
are impressed by an ostentatious display of the details of madhura rasa and
its jargon; however, it is beyond their capacity to assess any actual
spiritual substance. While a counterfeiter must be familiar with the
superficial details of the substance he imitates, no matter how much his
replica may look like the real thing, and dupe the unsuspecting, it has no
backing from the treasury and is therefore not only worthless but also
illegal. Possession and distribution are punishable crimes. Srila Guru
Maharaja's example is apposite: billboards may hype "rasik" but if a
qualified auditor examines their books he will discover they are bankrupt.

Numerous transgressions and examples of skewed siddhanta corroborate this
point. To suggest that Srila Saraswati Thakur's sacred credo, pujala raga
patha (always keep the path of raga-marga above as worshipful) constitutes
mere "instruction for neophytes" is egregious ignorance. It is insulting to
Prabhupada Srila Saraswati Thakur and the rupanuga guru-varga. Additionally,
it betrays a fundamental misconception with regard to the proper method of
approaching even the outskirts of the Supreme Reality, what to speak of its
interior. Sahajiyas say, "Brahma Samhita so much supports Mahaprabhu's
position that we suspect that it is written by him. "Sahajiyas say,
"Prema-vivarta so much supports Bhaktivinode Thakur's position that we
suspect that it is written by him." These unwitting sahajiya-wannabes opine,
"pujala raga patha gaurava bhange so much supports Sridhar Maharaja's
position that we suspect that it is written by him."

To be perfectly honest Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur also held some
suspicion about Srila Sridhar Maharaja's conceptions. When he read his
Bhaktivinode Viraha Dasakam and the sloka that weighs, assesses, and
quantifies the ontological positions of Mahaprabhu, Swarupa Damodar, Rupa
and Sanatan, Raghunath Das, Krishna Das Kaviraja Goswami, Jiva Goswami,
Baladeva Vidyabhushan Prabhu, Brahma, Shiva, Sukadeva, Uddhava and
identifies Bhaktivinode Thakur's gift to the world (radha-daysam), so
perfect was his representation that authorship came into question: "He has
not written this, Bhaktivinode Thakur has written this through him!" And it
is Srila Sridhar Maharaja who underscores the deep significance of this as
the tenor of Srila Saraswati Thakur's life and teachings:

pujala raga patha gaurava bhange
mattala sadhu jana visaya range

"The path of Raga Marga shall always remain high above as worshipful and we
shall devote our full energy in this plane in service to Their Divine Domain
and the servitors therein."

According to Srila Guru Maharaja this is the motto of Srila Saraswati Thakur
(composed upon the occasion of the inauguration of the Bagh Bazaar flagship
Gaudiya Math): "That is his instruction, all through, not only temporarily,
but throughout. Don't be a disbeliever, very eager to see the final result."
It perfectly echoes the sentiments expressed by Srila Raghunath Das Goswami,
the prayojana tattva acharya (the one who identifies our ultimate aspiration
or service target — radha dasyam):

sakhyaya te mama namo'stu namo'stu nityam
dasyaya te mama raso'stu raso'stu satyam

We eternally worship intimacy while our focus is upon service. Intimate
dealings will come out of a genuine service necessity, not wishful thinking.
Stick to lower duty; promotion is inevitable. Srila Sridhar Maharaja warns,
"Whenever we shall try to hear about the madhura rasa service, we shall
always keep in our mind this sloka of Das Goswami; this mantram will protect
us." This is the consistent position of Srila Saraswati Thakur and his bona
fide followers. Therefore Srila Saraswati Thakur concluded, "He will not
sell my things in a black market very cheaply." Srila Guru Maharaja's
expounds this position perfectly in the transcriptions that follow this
letter: "To Become A Vaishnava Proper Is Almost Impossible" and "The
Difference Between Gaudiya Math and Sahajiyaism" wherein he reveals,
Even we are not allowed, by our master, to read the books where madhura-rasa
details are described: Govinda-lilamrtam, Stava-Mala, Vilapa-kusumañjali,
Ujjvala-nilamani, he did not allow to study and discuss. Rather he would
have been very much disturbed if he heard that someone is interfering with
the higher lila in those books. He did not like it. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
The self-deluded attempt to refute this countering, "Sridhar Maharaja
doesn't mean what he is saying." This reminds me of Srila Guru Maharaja
observing, "Kaviraja Goswami has dealt with madhura-rasa in Chaitanya
Charitamrta in such a way that it cannot be misunderstood — and still it is
misunderstood." Any simple hearted, aspiring servitor, with modest
aspirations (natural growth — not artificial ripening — deserve, then
desire) will hear Srila Guru Maharaja and clearly understand what is what.
If someone chooses, for whatever reason, to exempt themself, ignoring the
cautions of Sukadeva Goswami, Raghunath Das Goswami, Bhaktisiddhanta
Saraswati Thakur and the modern day rupanuga-acharya Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar
Dev-Goswami, they are committing spiritual suicide. Most telling of all is
that Srila Sridhar Maharaja himself did not even read such literature:
We have not gone through the higher teachings of Rupa Goswami — this Ujjval
Nilamani and others — we are told that from far away whatever we see, how he
has dealt with details of madhura-rasa — subtle stages of different
characteristics — wonderful... — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
We could just stop here and rest our case. But this gentleman and his
followers are not only deluding themselves but misguiding others into
circumventing Srila Swami Maharaja Prabhupada, Srila Guru Maharaja and Srila
Saraswati Thakur, so we offer a few additional observations.

Srila Guru Maharaja suggests an explanation as to how such situations arise:
Sometimes it may happen that the sisya, the disciple, came with some good
will and now he has got deviation: he may see that ‘it is too much for me, I
can't accept him [the restrictions of the guru]. So I must go to a guru of a
more mild temperament or a less qualified guru who may support my ill
dealings also to such an extent.' Sometimes separation is effected from the
fault of the disciple. He can't stand, so he goes back and takes a sahajiya
guru just as those misguided, against the will of Swami Maharaja, went and
got very cheap, less price, very cheap bargain and they swallowed that pill.
Especially the aspiring Western devotional section is easily duped by
pretense. Saraswati Thakur explains why [Prakrta Rasa Shatadushani: 100
Flaws of Sahajiyaism]:vaidha-bhakta

-jane kabhu raganuga jane nakomala-sraddhake kabhu rasika to' jane na [61]It
is beyond the capacity of neophyte practitioners to recognize an actual
raga-bhakta. Those who are spiritually weak, whose faith is not yet firm and
deeply rooted cannot know who or what is a rasik vaishnava. To extol the
virtues of hearing from a "rasik Vaishnava" to a group of neophyte devotees
amounts to nothing more than self-promotion and fraud.anartha na gele sisye
jata-rati bole naanartha-visistha sisye rasa-tattva bole na [59]Without the
removal of anarthas, attachment (rati) cannot blossom in the disciple. So a
disciple infested with anartha is never instructed in rasa-tattva.asakta
komala-sraddhe rasa-katha bole naanadhikarire rase adhikara deya na
[60]Rasa-katha is not for those who are spiritually weak or whose faith is
not firm and deeply rooted. The unqualified have no rasa-adhikara (capacity
to taste rasa).Furthermore it is incongruent with a genuine rupanuga guru to
give rasa-siksa to the unqualified:adhikara avicara rupanuga kore
naanartha-anvita dase rasa-siksa deya na [55]True followers of Rupa Goswami
never ignore the disciple's qualification or lack of qualification
(adhikara). A disciple infested with anarthas should never be given
rasa-siksha. To violate this principle is spiritually illegal.The inversion
being, a self-styled "rasik-guru" who ignores the lack of qualifications of
his disciples and gives them rasa-siksha is unqualified himself and has
deviated from the line of Rupa Goswami. According to Srila Saraswati Thakur
this sort of imitation comes from attraction for pratishtha (i.e. coveting
the name and fame associated with being a rasik). It has become glaringly
apparent that not only is the intended audience ineligible but the
translator/commentator himself is disqualified. Such a transaction is the
mutual appreciation of cheater and cheated, the blind leading the blind
(folie à deux). His publications merely represent the latest acquisition of
the Sahajiya Library in the Museum of MisConception.When asked when is it
appropriate to think of guru and disciple in terms of swarupa and meditate
upon the songs and slokas of the siddha plane, Srila Guru Maharaja answered
that the minimal requirement is the stage of bhava-dasha (bhava bhakti as
described by Rupa Goswami — bhava ankura2). This is an exalted level of
spiritual attainment, the stage that immediately precedes Krishna-prema. If
one has not achieved bhava-bhakti there is not even the remote possibility
that they are a rasik.jata-bhava na hoile rasika to' haya najada-bhava na
chadile rasika to' haya na [23]Without the awakening of bhava there is no
possibility that one is a "rasik Vaishnava." If mundane emotions have not
been completely given up one cannot be an actual "rasik." In addition to
twenty-four hours absorption in Krishna consciousness (even during sleep)
one of the symptoms of bhava-bhakti is mana sunyata (the absence jealousy,
envy) it is the antithesis of the ego that disallows one from appreciating
the higher Vaishnava while compelling one to repeatedly offend him.All in
all, these are violations of the teachings of Rupa Goswami and his bonafide
followers. Sometimes Srila Guru Maharaja would say that before he gives an
answer, in addition to scanning the entire Vedas, Puranas etc., Goswami
literature, advice of the Mahajanas, the teachings of the rupanuga
guru-varga including, most prominently, Bhaktivinode Thakur and Srila
Saraswati Thakur, "I take my stand on spiritual common sense." To
prematurely embrace the siddha plane (as in siddha-pranali) means in an
extreme state of denial one must ignore ones own blatant disqualifications.
While the "scent of a beast lingers" can we seriously entertain the prospect
that we are qualified to hear of God's sex life? Are we ready to scrutinize
the names, forms, qualities and erotic pastimes of Krishna's harem (as in
the Ujjval Nilamani)?The scripture says that you won't get raga-bhakti
performing vaidhi-bhakti perfectly for ten million (10,000,000) lifetimes
(janma koti sukrtair na labhyate). To what Brahma, Shiva, Suka, Uddhava,
Lakshmi aspire we shall achieve overnight because we have been
absentmindedly mumbling some semblance of Krishna-nama for 20-30 years? We
will vault the Viroja river, bypass Vaikuntha, Ayodhya, Dwaraka and Mathura,
hop, skip and jump upon the heads of Brahma, Shiva and Uddhava, rush in and
crash the gate to Krishna's harem? A suicidal delusion. The angelic fear to
traverse that divine soil knowing that it is all guru — superior stuff to
one's own existence (vaikunthera prthivy adi sakala cinmaya).Krishna-lila is
the exclusive domain of the highest section of liberated souls. Even if this
gentleman and his followers were "liberated souls" what are the odds that
they are Krishna-bhaktas, qualified to enter Vrindavan and Krishna-lila?
According to the scriptures — ten million to one (koti mukta madhye
‘durlabha' eka krsna-bhakta — 10,000,000 to 1). Are the reading,
translation, publication and distribution of the most confidential
literature in existence really, truly out of a genuine service necessity or
is it something else?
After we cross the threshold we shall navigate the cosmos with the nature
and intensity of our sacrifice, the degree of our dedication — we will be
allowed to enter into the internal nectarine movement. Eliminating this idea
we become sahajiya. Those who say that they have got raga bhakti — we hate
them — Gaudiya Math has come only to destroy them. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
Sometimes people ask incredulously, "Then why were these books written?" For
whom are books on gynecology written? Gynecologists. Who are the books on
rasa tattva meant for? Rasiks. Who are rasiks? Those who have achieved
minimally bhava-bhakti: bhava-ankura — the blossoming of Krishna-prema
(bhakti-lata bija—seed; bhava—blossom; prema—fruit). When someone suggested
nishta as a qualification Srila Guru Maharaja's answer was, "No, no — nistha
nothing!" "Ruci is somewhat safeR" And what is ruci: "Proper ruci is to be
traced after nistha: 24 hours a day — incessant Krishna consciousness." "One
can even fall from swarupa-siddhi... Only vastu siddhi [posted in lila] is
guaranteed." And according to Srila Guru Maharaja a genuine Vaishnava will
never feel that he has achieved anartha nivrtti (which precedes nistha,
ruci, asakti, bhava, prema). What then shall we conclude? Krishna-prema is
not a thing of this world (akaitava krsna-prema, yena jambunada-hema, sei
prema nrloke na haya).

I once posed a similar question to Srila Guru Maharaja, "If Srila Saraswati
Thakur forbade his followers from reading Ujjvala Nilamani, Gita Govinda
etc. and you and Srila Swami Maharaja are among his exalted followers, then
who can read these books?" Guru Maharaja laughed, chiding,
You should not adopt an atheistic conclusion: ‘This life is all in all, if I
don't get it now it will vanish forever.' When appropriate for the student
these books will be given. Meanwhile, stick to the rulings of your class
(sve sve' dhikare ya nistha sa gunah parikirtitah).
Much is made of the following remarks of Srila Saraswati Thakur. Having
concluded his Braja Mandal Parikrama Srila Saraswati Thakur revealed, "Do
not think that asta-kaliya-lila smaranam is the property of the sahajiyas.
Actually it is our affair. We must retrieve it from the hands of the
sahajiyas." This gentleman and his followers believe Srila Saraswati
Thakur's life's work should be adjusted to conform to this statement rather
than vice-versa. "Srila Saraswati Thakur shed a hundred gallons of blood
showing what madhura rasa is not"; the Prakrta Rasa Shatadushani — 100 Flaws
of Sahajiyaism — is comprised of one hundred "No!"s but they purport this
single remark cancels a lifetime of emphasis to the contrary.
All these days we have not spoken about lila. But this is our most
confidential assetR I know that you are not ready to hear it, but we should
know that such a transcendental ideal exists within the realm of devotion.
Beyond the realm of anartha-nivrtti is artha-pravrtti, pure conjugal service
to Radha and Krishna. This is transcendental reality. If we do not know of
this transcendental realm, all of our efforts may end in nirvisesa-vada
(impersonalism)R Those who have chanted harinama for fifteen or twenty years
should know such things. The beginners need not hear these topics or they
will misunderstand. These topics are for certain audiences, not for all3 R
One should not reveal one's bhajana to others.' If we disregard this
instruction of our previous acharyas, there may be a permanent fall from the
realm of devotional service. — Srila Saraswati Thakur
It is one thing to "know that such a transcendental ideal exists" quite
another to dive into the details. Blinded by ulterior motive, under the
influence of the false logic of accepting half a hen, they fail to realize
that the cautions he attached proved prophetic; this is precisely what
happened.In his last days, a few months before his departure from this
world, he would hear the songs of asta-kaliya-lila of Bhaktivinode Thakur,
Narottam Thakur etc. sung by Srila Bhakti Vichar Jajavar Maharaja. But some
of Srila Saraswati Thakur's senior disciples (not neophytes) mistook these
remarks as license to culture the details of madhura rasa in Ujjval
Nilamani, Gita Govinda etc. One by one they succumbed to sahajiyaism,
ultimately losing their faith in Srila Saraswati Thakur, even challenging
his legitimacy and disconnecting from him. Over this very issue, Srila
Saraswati Thakur's own mission Sri Gaudiya Math became polluted with
sahajiyaism. It culminated in the successor acharya engaging in sexual
relations with various "advanced lady disciples" in the name of gopi-bhajan.
We should not indulge in these topics carelessly, that will harm our
realization in the future; because the mundane characteristic is possible to
be carried there; the mundane experience may try to take us down, so with
much caution... What we conceive, it is not in that plane, it is a higher
and higher plane, so we are not getting the real picture of things here; it
is an adulterated picture; it is alloyed picture, an alloyed conception of
the original thing, not an unalloyed conception of the thing; with this
caution we are to deal with themR to cultivate about sambhoga (erotic
pastimes) is very, very dangerous. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
Srila Bhakti Sundar Govinda Dev-Goswami Maharaja concurs:
Srila Saraswati Thakur was not only Acharya for cleansing the sampradaya but
for establishing something also: Establishing the principle [of madhura
rasa] and he has shown that in his character [asta-kaliya-lila smaranam].
But after he has shown it, it became polluted and Srila Guru Maharaja knows
it very well. Therefore Srila Guru Maharaja has not shown it. Rather, who is
showing, Srila Guru Maharaja hates him.
Srila Guru Maharaja has seen the result in Srila Saraswati Thakur's senior
disciples and their followers — how they fell down — therefore Srila Guru
Maharaja was even stricter: ‘you may be qualified but still you cannot do
that.' That was Srila Guru Maharaja's opinion.
In the last time of his life Srila Saraswati Thakur shown some practice
[asta-kaliya-lila lila smaranam] he can do and he is able to do because he
is qualified to do that. He has shown there the target of our life (Radhika
Madhavasam). That is also necessary to know because we are all devotees of
Krishna. If we are blind, if we remain in the dark about Krishna-lila that
also is not healthy, so for us some us some dig-darshan — direction,
indication — was shown by Srila Saraswati Thakur's final pastimes.
But if we want to tell something about the final days of Srila Guru Maharaja
then we shall have to say that in his last time he was incessantly crying
out for the mercy of Nityananda Prabhu, "Dayal Nitai, Dayal Nitai, Dayal
Nitai!" Nitai koruna habe braje Radha Krishna pabe — ‘If Nityananda Prabhu
is merciful then it may be possible [to enter Vrindavan].' So you take
shelter to the lotus feet of Nityananda — that is safety for your life. Not
to imitate anything. But Nityananda Prabhu is so merciful he will give
shelter to you and you will get shelter in Krishna-lila under the guidance
of Rupa Goswami, Sanatan GoswamiR — Srila Govinda Maharaja
Srila Guru Maharaja is "even stricter" than Srila Saraswati Thakur:
Our Guru Maharaja [Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur] also in Kartik Mas [the
month of Damodar, the month of Radharani] in Radha Kunda and Vrindavan, he
chanted that asta-kaliya-lila [eight-fold daily pastimes of Radha Krishna]
composed by Bhaktivinode Thakur, but I do not do that.R I very strictly
confine to the lower level, than even Guru Maharaja gave R [what he allowed
is] a little higher. I am very strict about that [not allowing what he
allowed].
Therefore he is the Guardian of Devotion.Incidentally, Srila Keshava
Maharaja must be turning over in his samadhi for there are two things he
despised: mayavada and sahjiyaism. It is especially humiliating and painful
when betrayal comes from someone within your own ranks (sampradaya, family)
invoking one's name as the sanctioning agent. Not unlike this gentleman,
Srila Keshava Maharaja's own brother became the further embarrassment of Sri
Gaudiya Math as the next acharya continuing the infestation of prakrta
sahajiyaism into Sri Gaudiya Math. Reading and studying Ujjval Nilamani,
Gita Govinda etc. he concluded he had achieved his mañjari-swarupa and would
dance in gopi-bhava before the Deities of Gaura-Gadadhar. Srila Keshava
Maharaja vented his outrage, "What is this nonsense? This is not a
whorehouse!"It is no wonder Krishna's guru-rupa Gauranga Mahaprabhu withdrew
His sanction from the Gaudiya Math to distribute His consciousness around
the world. Many wonder, "What happened to Gaudiya Math? Everything was going
so well and then it all went to hell. How did they become so deviated?" Now
we know. The aftereffects of such deviation are documented in Gita as well
as the Bhagawatam — nothing less than the destruction of the sampradaya
(parampara nasta; kalena nasta pralaye). What Srila Saraswati Thakur spoke
was the truth no doubt but it became mutilated by the temperament and
ulterior motives of the receivers (paramparyena, prakrta vaicitryad).It
would take a pure and simple hearted Vaishnava exclusively dedicated to the
order of his guru (Srila Saraswati Thakur) sacrificing himself to the
extremes of self-forgetfulness and empowered by Nityananda Prabhu, namely
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, to reestablish the
flow of Divine mercy and inundate the world with Krishna consciousness. And
in the aftermath of his departure Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami
revealed the full wealth of the Rupanuga Sampradaya in the line of
Bhaktivinode Thakur and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur. And neither
one of them engaged in the reading or studying or Ujjval Nilamani, Gita
Govinda etc.Have we forgotten Mahaprabhu's determination, "There is only one
Ramananda"? He told Pradyumna Misra, "I don't know any Krishna-katha; it
will be best for you to hear from Ramananda." Incidentally, Ramananda is the
only one mentioned by name in Chaitanya Charitamrta as being a rasik; this
indicates a particular uncompromising standard. According to Mahaprabhu,
"Accept no substitute. There is only one Ramananda and he instructed me.
Ramananda can handle the most tempting things for the service of Krishna.
What to speak of seeing a woman even if I hear the name of a woman I feel my
body transform. So who is that person who can remain unaffected by the sight
of a beautiful woman? But Ramananda has no mundane form he possesses an
aprakrta deha (supra-mundane, spiritual body). Therefore, you will not find
even trace amounts of the tendency to exploit within him. Only Ramananda
possesses that adhikara (qualification).
Unless of course one wishes to include his proxy Srila Sridhar Maharaja whom
Srila Saraswati Thakur renamed, "Ramananda Das" as overt recognition of
Srila Guru Maharaja's unique capacity to represent Ramananda Raya (after all
his ontological method is gleaned from Ramananda Samvada). And that vaibhava
of Ramananda Raya, and perfect representative of Srila Saraswati Thakur,
forbids premature hearing of rasa-katha.When Nimai Pandit announced his
desire to manifest devi-bhava, in a dramatic performance at the house of
Candrashekhar, he stated the prerequisite to be an audience member was
complete sense control (jitendriya, dhira); the same qualification for
hearing the rasa-katha of Radha Krishna's erotic pastimes. Srivas Thakur and
Advaita Acharya (Narada and MahaVishnu) were crestfallen, considering
themselves unfit, lamenting,
We won't be able to attend. Nimai Pandit laughed in disbelief, 'If the two
of you cannot attend then who can?' He conceded, 'All right then, I'll give
you both the benediction that your senses will be completely under control
for the duration of the performance and you will not be attacked by illusion
by seeing me dance.' — Chaitanya Bhagwat, Madhya 18
The hallmark of devotion is considering oneself unfit, unqualified. When
moved with deep devotion Srila Saraswati Thakur meticulously suppressed any
emotion. Yet sometimes he would cry uncontrollably when venting his service
aspiration (ashabharair amrta sindhu-mayaih kathañcit). Those who are
immediately adjacent to madhura rasa (i.e. Uddhava et al.) having assessed
its profundity, desire the least position in that soil (asam aho
carana-renu-jusam aham syam vrndavane kim api gulma-latausadhinam).
Mahaprabhu himself aspires for an atomic presence in that plane
(sthita-dhuli-sadrsam vicintaya) and Prabhodananda Saraswati considers the
very direction in which Srimati Radharani appeared to be close enough and
utterly worshipful (tasyah namo 'stu vrsabhanu bhuvodise 'pi). The evidence
of their conceptual depth is proportionate to the degree of vented
negativity. Devotion is measured by its inverse (depth of hankering, finding
oneself in want) not ostentatious displays of achievement. A maturing girl
will shyly conceal her developing feminine attributes: "At the rise of
genuine prema, jiva hides her own glory and strives for Krsna-bhajan." —
Srila Saraswati Thakur.One of our sannyasis used to visit this gentleman at
Keshavaji Gaudiya Math in Mathura and Devananda Gaudiya Math in Nabadwip
Dham. I wanted to know from Srila Guru Maharaja if he approved because until
my asking his silence gave me pause. He spoke in no uncertain terms, that
this renegade disciple/sannyasi of Srila Keshava Maharaja was the
perpetrator of offenses to him personally (with full knowledge of whom he
was offending). With a pained look upon his lotus face Srila Guru Maharaja
shared, "He abused me in a very nasty way. Therefore, I stopped my
publication [Gaudiya Darshan] and withdrew all association." These words are
still ringing in my ears.The naïve counter, "but he has so much appreciation
for Srila Guru Maharaja." With regard to his mission's annual charade
celebrating Srila Guru Maharaja's Vyas Puja etc. I invoke the Gaura Kishore
Das Babaji Maharaja clause: "Get some cow dung and cleanse the place!" To
paraphrase an axiom, motive is nine-tenths of devotion — if not more. About
another so-called guru, masquerading as a bosom friend, feigning "much
respect and appreciation for Srila Sridhar Maharaja" and equally applicable,
Srila Guru Maharaja looked askance, "To hear from him about me is to commit
suicide."And whom did this fellow offend? The person whom Srila Saraswati
Thakur certified as having received what he came to give: the one who fully
represents him, the one who carries the conception of Bhaktivinode Thakur
and Rupa Goswami (rupanuga-dhara). According to Srila Guru Maharaja his
offense "reached the holy lotus feet of Sri Rupa." Additionally, Srila
Saraswati Thakur envisioned Bhaktivinode Thakur as Srimati Radharani. To
speak against Radharani's proxy under the trumped-up pretense of "defending
one's guru" is perverse madness (aparadha — to go against Sri
Radha).Mahaprabhu, the personification of gopi-bhava, could not tolerate
rasabhasa and that which contradicts "bhaktisiddhanta" — it made him angry
(rasabhasa haya yadi siddhanta-virodha, sahite na pare prabhu, mane haya
krodha). In response to their Math's annual rasabhasa ratha yatra running
counter to the current of Nabadwip Dham, Srila Guru Maharaja vented
gopi-bhava: before the festival begins the gopis will be angry to see an
empty chariot arrive in Vrindavan [Nabadwip Dham is Gupta-Vrindavan]:
Once the sun had risen the gopis noticed a golden chariot in front of Nanda
Maharaja's doorway.
They enquired, ‘Whom does this belong to?'"
Perhaps Akrura has returned. That Akrura who fulfilled Kamsa's desire by
taking our lotus-eyed Krishna away from Vrindavan to Mathura.
[Sridhar Swami and Chakravarti Thakur agree, "The gopis speak this sloka
angrily."]
Now that our hearts have been ripped from our bodies has he returned to
collect our rotting carcasses to offer our flesh in funeral oblations for
his master Kamsa!
[At this point they are enraged] — Srimad Bhagavatam 10.46.47-49 [ The gopis
response to unknowingly seeing Uddhava's chariot while he is visiting the
house of Nanda and Yasoda.]
This section of the Bhagwatam lies at the threshold of the Bhramara Gita
(Srimati Radharani's Ecstatic Interior). Envy of the higher Vaishnava (her
delegate) disqualifies one from entering her domain, which is the target of
the Bhagwatam (nirmatsarya). It is significant only to one whom possesses
genuine feeling, Divine substance within (hrdayena' bhyanujñato yo
dharmastha nibodhata). The niggardly attempt to mount a refutation by citing
the apocryphal customs of people in Vrindavan as precedent and submitting a
stack of references, that amount to basically a google search of the
Bhagwatam for occurrences of the word "ratha," is pathetic and betrays a
lack of any substantial realization. It is eyewash for the siddhantically
impaired.And the offenses are not only of long ago but continue until the
present. When asked if he appreciated Srila Guru Maharaja's unrivaled
interpretation of Brahma Gayatri, extracting Radha- Dasyam, unable to
conceal his jealousy he dismissively "flipped his hand in the air and
wrinkled his nose, stating disdainfully, ‘That is already there in many
places.'" It is going on five years and he has failed to produce a single
reference, what to speak of many. He was a fraud from the moment of his
conception.He cannot even vibrate Srila Guru Maharaja's holy name
(disallowing the "Dev" in Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami Maharaja).
Formally he acknowledges that Srila Guru Maharaja knows many things — does
he know his own name?He challenges Srila Guru Maharaja's authorship of the
slokas at Rupa Goswami's Kadamb Khandi. He became apoplectic when challenged
by a simple-hearted girl in Vrindavan who knew what many know: they are part
of the original wealth of Srila Guru Maharaja.Srila Sridhar Maharaja solves
the siddantic mystery of Kaviraja Goswami's comparing Gadadhar to Rukmini:
It is as if Mahaprabhu has taken away the soul leaving the body standing —
that is the position of Gadadhar Pandit, quite empty. Following Mahaprabhu
her heart has been taken away by Mahaprabhu — in such a way he is following
Mahaprabhu. He is not full in himself. Something, the most important thing,
his heart has been taken by Mahaprabhu. So automatically he has no other
alternative but to follow Mahaprabhu. Wholly given: radha bhava dyuti
suvalitam naumi krsna-swarupam. Radharani when her heart is stolen by
Krishna, the carcass is standing — something like that — This is Gadadhara
Pandit's position to play. Fully engrossed with the conception of Gauranga —
who has taken everything from him (inner existence). So he had no other
alternative but to be fully engrossed, captured thoroughly by Gauranga. In
this way we find he moved his whole life.
Others — some were ordered, some were allowed to go to Vrindavan. Gadadhar
wanted to visit Vrindavan along with Gauranga Mahaprabhu, Sri Chaitanyadev
himself but he was denied, "No, you can't go."
Jagadananda Pandit when he asked, with some hesitation was given permission,
go but there you move under the guidance of Sanatan and also some specific
practices: do this, do this and don't do that. But Gadadhar Pandit was not
allowed to go to Vrindavan. He was the Queen of Vrindavan and now
transferred to Nabadwip his position is just the opposite. He could not
enter Vrindavan. He prayed and Mahaprabhu did not give any permission. "No
you are to live here." And he had to do so.
Such a peculiar position: if Radharani lives in Vrindavan without her heart
— is it possible? She is the gist of the whole of Vrindavan; everything
comes from her. How can she go there without her own self-existence? It is
impossible. So she/he did not get any permission. We find this peculiarity
there — solely dedicated for Nabadwip lila. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
But he disparages this extraordinary, illuminating, original explanation of
Srila Sridhar Maharaja. Once again the interior, finer conception is lost
upon him. It is telling that he has diminished capacity to comprehend and
appreciate Gaura-lila, which is the actual entrance to radha-dasyam in
Krishna-lila (yatha yatha gaura-padaravinde... radha padambhoja
sudhambhurasi).Incidentall

y, the first part of Srila Sanatana Goswami Prabhu's Brhad Bhagavatamrta
culminates in the understanding that separation is greater in intensity and
depth than union but this is known only to genuine devotees of Mahaprabhu:
tathapi sambhoga-sukhad api stutahso ko py' anirvacya-tamo
mano-ramahpromoda-rasih parinamato dhruvamtatra sphuret tad-rasikaika-vedyah
The anguish of separation (viraha bhava) is praised as greater than the
happiness of sambhoga (meeting, union). Separation is so pleasing to the
mind (mano-ramah) that it cannot be described (anirvacya-tamah). It always
transforms into an abundance of ecstatic joy (promoda-rasih). Only actual
rasiks know that separation is higher than union (rasika vedyah).
It would appear that quite to the contrary, the self-proclaimed "rasik" is
anything but. Repeatedly in matters of spiritual taste, although he emulates
professionals, he proves himself an amateur.This fellow damns Srila Guru
Maharaja with faint praise lauding him as a "good philosopher" (darsanik
pandita, tattva-vit etc.) while coaxing an ass-embly of fools to adorn him
with the titles 'rasika'R 'rasa-jna' (the knower of rasa), 'rasika-cudamani'
(crown jewel of rasikas). Demonstrating the height of arrogance, he
shamelessly usurps the position of Mahaprabhu Himself with the most
ludicrous title of all, ‘the yuga-acharya.' Has Paundraka reincarnated?Srila
Saraswati Thakur couldn't find a single Vaishnava in Vrindavan but this
fellow addresses the attendees at a public meeting as "rasiks, bhavuks,
etc." It would be laughable if not for the fact that it ridicules
Mahaprabhu, Swarupa, Ramananda, Rupa, Sanatan, Raghunath et al.It is Srila
Sridhar Maharaja who carries and infuses the sannyas mantram given by Srila
Saraswati Thakur with gopi-bhava (complete self-sacrifice). He is the
sannyas-guru of Srila Keshava Maharaja and the ultimate sannyas-guru of
those who have received sannyas from him (including Srila Swami Maharaja
Prabhupada and his followers). And it is Srila Guru Maharaja's contention
that one must decipher the meaning of the following slokas to understand
what is what, what the goal is and how to achieve it (sambandha, abhideya,
prayojana):vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau — Brahma SamhitaYou
won't achieve the goal of Krishna consciousness, which is a plane of service
(radha-dasyam) by reading, studying etc. The only means is dedication:
self-sacrifice to the extreme and beyond that, total self-forgetfulness
merged in Their Divine interest (Radhika Madhavasam).vidantas te santah
ksiti-virala-carah katipaye — Brahma SamhitaAnd Their Divine realm, Goloka,
is rarely known to very few souls in this world.yat presthhair apy alam
asulabham kim punar bhakti-bhajam — UpadesamrtaWe are told that the pastimes
in Govardhan are superior to the pastimes in Vrindavan; the pastimes in
Radha Kunda are superior to Govardhan; the pastimes in the waters of Radha
Kunda are superior to the pastimes on the shore. The Divine Waters of Radha
Kunda, composed of the most intense concentrated self-sacrifice and
self-forgetfulness (Radharani in liquid form4) are a rare achievement even
for the parama-presthha sakhis (inner circle of most intimate gopis) what to
speak of others (including, bhakti parama—Narada; premaika-nistha—Uddhava
etc.).
4Radha Kunda is Radharani represented as liquid — to bathe is to transform
oneself wholesale — to identify exclusively with the interest of Srimati
Radharani [radha-dasyam] — Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami [The
Guardian of Devotion]
In conclusion, one cannot argue with an infectious disease, the only
sensible policy is quarantine. Srila Sridhar Maharaja used to say, "They may
do. Let them dance with their foolish tendency."Finally, after many years of
tolerance to the extreme, this gentleman and his entourage were
unceremoniously ousted from the hallowed soil of Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math
in Nabadwip Dham. What more needs to be said. Those in the line of Srila
Guru Maharaja and in good standing with Srila Govinda Maharaja and Sri
Chaitanya Saraswat Math avoid him and his followers like the plague.Srila
Govinda Maharaja and Srila Guru Maharaja would not waste their time with
such an upstart. I am an insignificant, fallen jiva but praying for their
mercy and the mercy of the Prabhupadas, as well as the special blessings of
Srila Jiva Goswami Prabhu, I have responded only to defend their honor.
Ratha Yatra Day — 2006Founding of Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math — 1942
n.b. In 1981 I wrote an essay entitled, "Srila Prabhupada and Srila Sridhar
Maharaja." It formed the basis of the Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Math
publication "The Guardian of Devotion." Every word was read to Srila Guru
Maharaja who at times, "nodded in agreement, leaned forward with acute
interest, fell back in delightful laughter and alternately became very
grave." At the conclusion he clapped his palms and said, "We have heard a
very good lecture! He has represented me there fully."
Later His Divine Grace suggested one minor correction. He explained that
when we must address the wrong doing of someone violating the principles of
Srila Saraswati Thakur but who may be formally in his line, it is best not
to mention them by name. However, in this case, if this gentleman (or lady
as Saraswati Thakur might have it) is willing to own up to the offenses he
committed to the Rupanuga Acharya, Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami
Maharaja — in print, as requested by Srila Guru Maharaja — then I will
consider making an exception and place his name in the subtitle of this
essay. — Ed.
1cripple |?krip?l| |?kr?p?l| |?kr?p(?)l|noun• cause a severe and almost
insuperable problem for : his infectious prakrta sahajiyaism crippled their
natural spiritual development.insuperable |in?so?p(?)r?b?l| |1n?sup(?)r?b?l|
|?n?s(j)u?p(?)r?b(?)l|adje

ctive(of a difficulty or obstacle) impossible to overcome : premature
exposure to the erotic pastimes of Radha and Krishna resulted in insuperable
spiritual brain damage.
2bhava dasha (bhava-ankura)ksantir avyartha-kalatvam viraktir
mana-sunyataasa-bandhah samutkanthha nama-gane sada rucihasaktis
tad-gunakhyane pritis tad-vasati-sthaleity-adayo

'nubhavah syur jata-bhavaìkure jane[Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu — Rupa
Goswami]ksantir — Whatever loss may be incurred in any transaction that
matters little; he is fully conscious that my whole wealth is here and this
external acquisition has not much meaning.avyartha-kalatvam — 24 hours
engagement in Krishna consciousness: "Oh, the time is passing uselessly!"
Such lamentation sometimes will be pushed in the heart. avyartha-kala no
time will pass without my continued association with the desired
party.viraktir — Generally talks of the outer world he won't be able to
relish at any time.mana-sunyata — If anyone calls bad name or insults that
does not matter.asa-bandhah — Eternal hope — that very near I shall have my
fulfillment of life Krishna will bless me with his favor; Radharani will
bless me; she will attract me; some sort of internal hope.samutkanthha — "Oh
for such a long time has passed and I can't feel any real trace!" na prema
gandasthi durapi me harau "I can't trace any real faith or a drop of love
for Krishna."nama-gane sada rucih — Always busy this and that, so many
activities, always he will have some taste for the Name of the Lord.asaktis
tad-gunakhyane — When he will begin to describe about the transcendental
qualities of Krishna and their group — madly he will go on with that.pritis
tad-vasati-sthale — Whatever place is associated with Their memory, he will
have some special attraction for that.These are the qualifications and the
person who has got that bhava-bhakti is eligible to tackle all those higher
things in the transcendental realm. This is the pathayo, the passage money
[the fare or price to be paid]. — Srila Sridhar Maharaja
3We do not have any objection to hearing or singing Sri Krishna’s pastimes
(Krishna-lila). Lord Hari’s pastime is the only thing that should beheard or
sung. Only then can the conditioned souls’ natural attraction to hearing or
singing mundane topics, or stories of the prowess of their fruitive actions,
be eradicated. There is no other way than this.
But there is a difference between singing of other pastimes and singing of
the pastimes of the intimate conjugal relationship (the madhura-rasa of the
Divine Couple).Conditioned souls, who still are afflicted by their material
qualities and consequences (anartha), can hear the pastimes of Gauranga
Mahaprabhu or the childhood pastimes of Krishna. But if instead of doing
that, they try to hear or sing about the intimate conjugalpastimes of
Radha-Krishna, then instead of giving any benefit it will give rise to
misery.
Kirtan should only be heard from Sri Gurudev.A genuine devotee thinks, “I
will only listen to or discuss Hari-kathathat are flowing from the
transcendental mouth of Sri Gurudev and the topics of Srimad Bhagavatam that
are flowing from the transcendental mouth of Sri Sukadev.I will hear the
kirtan that was approved by Gauranga Mahaprabhu, or the pastimes ofKrishna’s
Holy Name,beauty, and qualities, from the transcendental mouth of Sri Guru,
ora suddha-bhakta (pure devotee) who has guru-nistha (firm faith in Sri
Guru). I will not hear these topics from anyone else.” One should listen to
kirtan only from a superior Vaishnava.Hearing kirtan from anyone else will
never be beneficial.
Hearing and singing about the intimate pastimes of Sri Radha-Govinda are
both most important worship and part of daily devotional service. But it is
improper and offensive to sing about these devotional pastimes to the
general public. If we do so we commit aparadha. “Do not talk about your own
bhajan with anyone and everyone” (apanbhajan-katha na kahibe yatha tatha) —
it is the duty of anyone whowants what is good for them to follow this
instruction that camefrom the acharyas.
Where all kinds of people are present, we should only have the Holy Name,
prayer, and songs of servitorship (dasya-rasa).Where only devotees who can
understand and appreciate the higher mellows (rasik-bhaktas) are present,
(if you have earned the privilege, i.e., you have reached that level of
devotional maturity) you can listen to songs of higher rasas. While
listening to songs of higher rasas, you can feel your respective devotional
mood according to your own eternal transcendental identity.Otherwise, an
opposite result will come from something that is actually good.
If by following this concept, the tradition of singing becomes extinct, even
that will be beneficial for the general mass.To allow the singing of
intimate pastimes here and there, due to greed for money or in the hope of
gratifying the senses, is truly an act befitting the age of Kali. — 'Sri
Srila Prabhupader Upadesamrta'
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Comment by Paramananda das on November 1, 2009 at 3:41am
"Srila Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakura has given us a transcendental literature entitled Krsna Bhavanamrita, which is full with Krsna's pastimes. Devotees can remain absorbed in Krsna-thought by reading such books."



His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Krsna - The Supreme Personality of Godhead

"Uddhava Visits Vrndavana

However I would not advise anyone that has not studied Srila Prabhupadas books for many years, and chanting 64 rounds a day to read it...mostly we need to hear Bhagavad Gita As it is --I personally prefere Srila Prabhupadas older version.Krsna Bhavanamrta is an asta Kaliay lila like Govinda Lilamrta, Govinda Lilamrta ,Stava Mala and such books are not some kind of demoniac books as propounded by some Gaudiya maths and that we hate"raga marg"...their envy and hatred of Srila Prabhupada was often clear,NM also went around and preached to these Gaudiya maths that AC Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada is not deviant..the material world is full of envy and nasty politics..

better to chant hare Krsna and read CC and Caitanya Bhagavad ,Caitanya Mangala, after hearing and chanting and preaching and getting the mercy of Prabhupada and Gauranga..Radha Krsna's lilas can be "digested"..not before

your servant

Payonidhi das
Comment by Paramananda das on November 1, 2009 at 3:42am
Comment by Paramananda das on November 3, 2009 at 4:50pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBiuyGLtHPE&feature=related
is a good refutation that Narayana Maharaja blasphemed Srila Prabhupada

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