more on the DOM

[Paramananda das]

PAMHO

AGTSP



The world will never accept ISKCON without the DOM by Srila Prabhupada, it is a legal document that was created and signed by Srila Prabhupada, those who do not accept it are asat.Because they want to use ISKCON for their own personal money making and so on.
(power and money hungry behavior)


Liberty and freedom is what democracy stands for, and it exposes corruption.With a totalitarian system KC will never spread ,and the GBC and all general devotees should know this.
The idea to set up a totalitarian system in the name of ISKCON all over the world will never happen, and even if it happens it will fail miserably.
USA and all Democratic countries will never agree to this, and church and state will still have to be kept separate , so until KC becomes everyone's religion it will never happen the ideas of Varna asrama are noble, but external, because becoming a pure devotee, is more important than Varna asrama.A pure devotee naturally follows varna asrama and more.Pure devotee means at least to chant 16 rounds and follow 4 regs.Srila Prabhupada said all who do so are pure devotees,Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada said without chanting 64 rounds and practicing pure devotional service ,one will not be a pure devotee.To educate devotees and non devotees in chanting is more important than varna asrama.
ISKCON has failed to expand widely like Srila Prabhupada wanted, the reason for this is the neglect of Srila Prabhupadas instruction to enforce the DOM .The evidence that a totalitarian Acaryas system no longer works are seen after the passing of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada never asked 50 Gurus to be acaryas and rule the world.
Sannyasis especially are forbidden to own property and gather large amounts of money they keep in personal bankaccounts.But any leader in ISKCON or any devotee can not use ISKCON for personal wealth, though it will never stop, such persons can never be seen as pure devotees.Nor those who simply make themselves a comfortable dictator position and do not even spread KC in their zone or area of responsibility. Women
are often attracted also to "powerful men".So the 2 money and desire for women is an anartha. Disguising with a show of sannyasa will not benefit the world. Personally we do not see anyone as a sannyasi up to standard if he fails to daily chant 64 rounds of japa daily.Bhakti is more important than external positions
your servant
 Paramananda das

Not following the DOM has let to killings ( in New Vrindavan in 1980th, though at the time they where expelled from ISKCON), sannyasis marrying female disciples ,either leaving ISKCON or staying in positions of comfort in ISKCON/
For ISKCON to be run on any level by former Gays is never going to create purity in ISKCON,personally we have seen gays never reform.
The DOM will keep ISKCON managers honest and doing their duty,the consequences will be removal.The GBC has failed to enforce that grains should not be served on Visnutattva apperance days, that no leaders in ISKCON should use ISKCON for personal profit, and that no former gays become sannyasis and Gurus. I am not saying all GBC's and TP's are gay, that would be crazy, but to investigate they are not is important.
Also the lack of bookdistribution and Harinama and prasadam distribution, in most ISKCON temples ,will be rectified by the DOM. Srila Prabhupada sometimes called democracy for demon crazy, that is because modern leaders do not bring people to KC, but the DOM is fair.It promotes justice and liberty.Sometimes ISKCON has been in violation of human rights, this should not be accepted on any level.
Srila Prabhupada never wrote another paper to void the DOM, maybe because he knew many of his disciples were money and power hungry and he would push them out of KC and they would be discouraged in their neophyte level of Bhakti?The version that Srila Prabhupada rejected the DOM does not fly, as Srila Prabhupada never wrote another legal document as in 1974 and 1970 to void these 2 documents.As long as managers act properly the DOM or not is not so important to me personally, or they do not use ISKCON for wealth....as ISKCON becomes larger and larger, looking into implementing the DOM will be a use full tool to spread KC. Srila Prabhupada wrote it and it is a legal document signed by His Divine Grace and to reject it is offensive

[Paramananda das]

PAMHO

AGTSP



The world will never accept ISKCON without the DOM by Srila Prabhupada, it is a legal document that was created and signed by Srila Prabhupada, those who do not accept it are asat.Because they want to use ISKCON for their own personal money making and so on.
(power and money hungry behavior)


Liberty and freedom is what democracy stands for, and it exposes corruption.With a totalitarian system KC will never spread ,and the GBC and all general devotees should know this.
The idea to set up a totalitarian system in the name of ISKCON all over the world will never happen, and even if it happens it will fail miserably.
USA and all Democratic countries will never agree to this, and church and state will still have to be kept separate , so until KC becomes everyone's religion it will never happen the ideas of Varna asrama are noble, but external, because becoming a pure devotee, is more important than Varna asrama.A pure devotee naturally follows varna asrama and more.Pure devotee means at least to chant 16 rounds and follow 4 regs.Srila Prabhupada said all who do so are pure devotees,Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada said without chanting 64 rounds and practicing pure devotional service ,one will not be a pure devotee.To educate devotees and non devotees in chanting is more important than varna asrama.
ISKCON has failed to expand widely like Srila Prabhupada wanted, the reason for this is the neglect of Srila Prabhupadas instruction to enforce the DOM .The evidence that a totalitarian Acaryas system no longer works are seen after the passing of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada.
Srila Prabhupada never asked 50 Gurus to be acaryas and rule the world.
Sannyasis especially are forbidden to own property and gather large amounts of money they keep in personal bankaccounts.But any leader in ISKCON or any devotee can not use ISKCON for personal wealth, though it will never stop, such persons can never be seen as pure devotees.Nor those who simply make themselves a comfortable dictator position and do not even spread KC in their zone or area of responsibility. Women
are often attracted also to "powerful men".So the 2 money and desire for women is an anartha. Disguising with a show of sannyasa will not benefit the world. Personally we do not see anyone as a sannyasi up to standard if he fails to daily chant 64 rounds of japa daily.Bhakti is more important than external positions
your servant
Payonidhi das

Not following the DOM has let to killings ( in New Vrindavan in 1980th, though at the time they where expelled from ISKCON), sannyasis marrying female disciples ,either leaving ISKCON or staying in positions of comfort in ISKCON/
For ISKCON to be run on any level by former Gays is never going to create purity in ISKCON,personally we have seen gays never reform.
The DOM will keep ISKCON managers honest and doing their duty,the consequences will be removal.The GBC has failed to enforce that grains should not be served on Visnutattva apperance days, that no leaders in ISKCON should use ISKCON for personal profit, and that no former gays become sannyasis and Gurus. I am not saying all GBC's and TP's are gay, that would be crazy,( but to investigate they are not is important,since many Gurus in ISKCON in the past came from this conditioning and fell down and embarrased themselves and ISKCON.)
Also the lack of bookdistribution and Harinama and prasadam distribution, in most ISKCON temples ,will be rectified by the DOM.
Srila Prabhupada sometimes called democracy for demon crazy, that is because modern leaders do not bring people to KC, but the DOM is fair.It promotes justice and liberty.Sometimes ISKCON has been in violation of human rights, this should not be accepted on any level.
Srila Prabhupada never wrote another paper to void the DOM, maybe because he knew many of his disciples were money and power hungry and he would push them out of KC and they would be discouraged in their neophyte level of Bhakti?The version that Srila Prabhupada rejected the DOM does not fly, as Srila Prabhupada never wrote another legal document as in 1974 and 1970 to void these 2 documents.As long as managers act properly the DOM or not is not so important to me personally, or they do not use ISKCON for wealth....as ISKCON becomes larger and larger, looking into implementing the DOM will be a use full tool to spread KC. Srila Prabhupada wrote it and it is a legal document signed by His Divine Grace and to reject it is offensive.

[Paramananda das]

this is a good link also:
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/05-10/editorials6079.htm