My dear Trivikrama Maharaja
Please accept my humble obaisences
All glories to Srila Prabhupada
I just remembered your commenting on devotee males and females embracing, it was on dandavats.com
http://www.dandavats.com/?p=1060 by Braja Sevika,However you failed to use any discipline when it comes to Hrdayananda Maharaja
putting his arm around a lady ,what kind of double standard is this?
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I have read with interest the on going exchange on this issue. I have a question for Mother Lalita Madhava and Suresh Prabhu. Both of you are senior devotees and must be asked to give Srimad Bhavatam class on occasion. What do you say if you have to speak on this verse?
SB. 7.12.9
TRANSLATION
Woman is compared to fire, and man is compared to a butter pot. Therefore a man should avoid associating even with his own daughter in a secluded place. Similarly, he should also avoid association with other women. One should associate with women only for important business and not otherwise.
PURPORT
If a butter pot and fire are kept together, the butter within the pot will certainly melt. Woman is compared to fire, and man is compared to a butter pot. However advanced one may be in restraining the senses, it is almost impossible for a man to keep himself controlled in the presence of a woman, even if she is his own daughter, mother or sister. Indeed, his mind is agitated even if one is in the renounced order of life. Therefore, Vedic civilization carefully restricts mingling between men and women. If one cannot understand the basic principle of restraining association between man and woman, he is to be considered an animal. That is the purport of this verse.
In the previous purport Srila Prabhupada had mentioned. ” In Kali-yuga, people are extremely liberal, but mixing with women and talking with them as equals actually constitues an uncivilized way of life.”
Comment posted by trivikramaswami on September 11th, 2006
So should our sannyasis be held to a lesser standard by you and other sannyasa godbrothers of HH Hrdayananda Maharaja?.(since there is pictures of him with his arm around at least one lady, and admiited by him it is not a fake)
This is highly hypocritical.One sannyasi was once found watching a porn movie..however to this day ,,is still in "good standing in ISKCON".
Recently some devotees told me about their concern that a GBC member left his bead bag for 3 days in the pujari room, and they where concerned he even was chanting his rounds.However had they dared asked him they would risk being thrown out of the temple.This kind of covering up has to stop within ISKCON.I just mentioned to you about the Satya Narayana Pujas being still being done at ISKCON Potomac after 13 years after the GBC banned this nonsens in 1996.I was asked to leave the temple by a board of what is now 2 GBC's and a sannyasi..because they saw nothing wrong with having demigod worship at the temple ,because "money is the purity ".And when I send you this GBC resolution yesterday, you told me to contact Anuttama Prabhu.The fact is he refuses to abide by these GBC rules that Satya Narayana pujas are not allowed in ISKCON. This is all not good.
I want to ask you why you can not confront Anuttama Prabhu that is wrong having Satya Narayana pujas at ISKCON Pototmac .At least you should respectfully mention that I have been told this is going on and this is a deviation.You wrote me in one email about being
like a "Narasimha-Guru" I wrote you respectfully this position especially belongs to Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada...but now my question with all respect ,why are you like a timid house cat, that refuse to expose such nonsense.
Many Prabhupada disciples cover up for each others deviations, this is not good when this happens on such a high level.Our society remains weak, and preaching and purity is not up to standard in many places. What will you and the GBC do to help Srila Prabhupadas movement ,this is my humble question? How come they never made you the GBC chairman? And my question is if they did would you act on such complaints or also turn a deaf ear?
I am sorry for my pointed questions, they are made in all seriousness with only the wellfare for ISKCON at large in mind.And Maharaja
I have always only had the highest regard for you,Srila Prabhupada I am sure is looking for you to please step up to the plate as one of his most senior sannyasis and disciples.Personally I am putting my hope in your to be abel to do something.
I beg to remain
you humble servant
Payonidhi das
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