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Does prasadam offer itself to Krsna?
I was thinking today about so many problems there was placed before me in devotional service.
Krsna says in the end of the 6chapter of Bhagavad Gita :
yoginām api sarveṣāṁ
mad-gatenāntar-ātmanā
śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ
sa me yuktatamo mataḥ
SYNONYMS
yoginām—of all yogīs; api—also; sarveṣām—all types of; mat-gatena—abiding in Me; antaḥ-ātmanā—always thinking of Me within; śraddhāvān—in full faith; bhajate—renders transcendental loving service; yaḥ—one who; mām—Me (the Supreme Lord); saḥ—he; me—Mine; yuktatamaḥ—the greatest yogī; mataḥ—is considered.

 
"Of all yogis, he who abides in Me with great faith is the higMay be an image of text that says 'But even if there may be some problems, always try to remain in Krishna Consciousness Do not give up chanting the Hare rishna mantra simply due to some external difficulties. Under all circumstance you should always chant Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. This will protect you from all danger of being influenced by Maya or the material energy. REE Letter LO: Bhanutanya- Tehran 14 March, 1975'hest of all."
TRANSLATION
And of all yogīs, he who always abides in Me with great faith, worshiping Me in transcendental loving service, is most intimately united with Me in yoga and is the highest of all
Krsna also says :
Chapter 9: The Most Confidential Knowledge
TEXT 22
ananyas cintayanto mam
ye janah paryupasate
tesam nityabhiyuktanam
yoga-ksemam vahamy aham
SYNONYMS
ananyah—no other; cintayantah—concentrating; mam—unto Me; ye—who; janah—persons; paryupasate—properly worship; tesam—their; nitya—always abhiyuktanam—fixed in devotion; yoga-ksemam—requirements; vahami—carry; aham—I.
TRANSLATION
But those who worship Me with devotion, meditating on My transcendental form-to them I carry what they lack and preserve what they have.
I was remembering one time in Denmark I believe it was in 1980/81 on travelling Sankirtana .Devotees where saying while we where taking prasadam in the Sankirtana van, :"OH NO I FORGOT TO OFFER THE KITRI"..I was feeling annoyed, how can you cook for Krsna and forget to offer it .It happened several times so I had enough , I started asking each day politly when we where getting into the Sankirtana Van : Prabhu did you offer the Prasadam to Gurudev,Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya .I think after a while some devotees got annoyed but I was not going to eat unoffered food .Though maybe cooked by a devotee.Krsna says in Bhagavad Gita :
Chapter 3: Karma-yoga
TEXT 13
yajna-sistasinah santo
mucyante sarva-kilbisaih
bhunjate te tv agham papa
ye pacanty atma-karanat
SYNONYMS
yajna-sista—food taken after performance of yajna; asinah—eaters; santah—the devotees; mucyante—get relief from; sarva—all kinds of; kilbisaih—sins; bhunjate—enjoy; te—they; tu—but; agham—grievous sins; papah—sinners; ye—those; pacanti—prepare food; atma-karanat—for sense enjoyment.
TRANSLATION
The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because they eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin.
So yes whoever was cooking was thinking of Krsna , but that is not an excuse to not offer the Bhoga. As far as I am concerned ,if you do not offer then you are eating Bhoga.That is commen sense.One day Janesvara Prabhu the Sankirtana leader, said it is not offered, I said let me offer it I did , so every time he cooked he claimed he had not offered it yet.So one day I asked him how can you forget to offer the Bhoga ? All of a sudden I was considered a demon , how did I dare question the sankirtana leader.I was told by Devamrta Swami my days where numbered and soon Sudharshan Chakra would come from the sky and kill me

May be a cartoon of 2 people and text that says 'I am carrying you! Forget the World! Forget the Gossips! Forget the Traitors! Forget the Failures!'

.Harikesa then said: WHATEVER A DEVOTEE COOKS IS PRASADAM!! Well Srila Prabhupada never taught devotees like that , you do not have to offer because automatically everything becomes prasadam .
Srila Prabhupada taught us to offer the Bhoga and chant pranam mantras 3 times for Guru, Gauranga and Krsna and then chant Gayatri Mantras :
1. Prayer to Srila Prabhupada:
nama om vishnu-padaya krishna-preshthaya bhutale
srimate bhaktivedanta-swamin iti namine
namas te saraswate deve gaura-vani-pracharine
nirvishesha shunyavadi pashchatya desha tarine
“I offer my respectful obeisances unto His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, who is very dear to Lord Krishna, having taken shelter at His lotus feet. Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master, servant of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanya deva and delivering the Western countries, which are filled with impersonalism and voidism.”
2. Prayer to Lord Chaitanya:
namo maha-vadanyaya krishna-prema-pradaya te
krishnaya krishna-chaitanya-namne gaura-twishe namaha
“O most munificent incarnation! You are Krishna Himself appearing as Sri Krishna Caitanya Mahaprabhu. You have assumed the golden color of Srimati Radharani. and You are widely distributing pure love of Krishna. We offer our respectful obeisances unto You.”
3. Prayer to Lord Krishna:
namo brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya cha
jagad-dhitaya krishnaya govindaya namo namaha
“I offer my respectful obeisances unto Lord Krishna, who is the worshipable Deity for all brahmanas the well-wisher of the cows and the brahmanas and the benefactor of the whole world. I offer my repeated obeisances to the Personality of Godhead, known as Krishna and Govinda.”
So prasadam is not offering itself to Krsna, we have to offer it :
Chapter 9: The Most Confidential Knowledge
TEXT 27
yat karosi yad asnasi
yaj juhosi dadasi yat
yat tapasyasi kaunteya
tat kurusva mad-arpanam
SYNONYMS
yat—what; karosi—you do; yat—whatever; asnasi—you eat; yat—whatever; juhosi—you offer; dadasi—you give away; yat—whatever; yat—whatever; tapasyasi—austerities you perform; kaunteya—O son of Kunti; tat—that; kurusva—make; mat—unto Me; arpanam—offering.
TRANSLATION
O son of Kunti, all that you do, all that you eat, all that you offer and give away, as well as all austerities that you may perform, should be done as an offering unto Me.
PURPORT
Thus, it is the duty of everyone to mold his life in such a way that he will not forget Krsna in any circumstance. Everyone has to work for maintenance of his body and soul together, and Krsna recommends herein that one should work for Him. Everyone has to eat something to live; therefore he should accept the remnants of foodstuffs offered to Krsna. Any civilized man has to perform some religious ritualistic ceremonies; therefore Krsna recommends, "Do it for Me," and this is called arcana. Everyone has a tendency to give something in charity; Krsna says, "Give it to Me," and this means that all surplus money accummulated should be utilized in furthering the Krsna consciousness movement. Nowadays people are very much inclined to the meditational process, which is not practical in this age, but if anyone practices meditating on Krsna twenty-four hours by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra round his beads, he is surely the greatest yogi, as substantiated by the Sixth Chapter of Bhagavad-gita.
Srila Prabhupada is very specific : Everyone has to eat something to live; therefore he should accept the remnants of foodstuffs offered to Krsna.
Devamrta Swami told me Sudharshan Chakra will kill me opposing the Sankirtana leader for spacing out and not offering the Bhoga.
Well I worship Sudharshan Chakra every day and though many persons called me a demon in ISKCON my head is still there :
Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 6.8.23
cakraḿ yugāntānala-tigma-nemi
bhramat samantād bhagavat-prayuktam
dandagdhi dandagdhy ari-sainyam āśu
kakṣaḿ yathā vāta-sakho hutāśaḥ
SYNONYMS
cakram — the disc of the Lord; yuga-anta — at the end of the millennium; anala — like the fire of devastation; tigma-nemi — with a sharp rim; bhramat — wandering; samantāt — on all sides; bhagavat-prayuktam — being engaged by the Lord; dandagdhi dandagdhi — please burn completely, please burn completely; ari-sainyam — the army of our enemies; āśu — immediately; kakṣam — dry grass; yathā — like; vāta-sakhaḥ — the friend of the wind; hutāśaḥ — blazing fire.
TRANSLATION
Set into motion by the Supreme Personality of Godhead and wandering in all the four , the disc of the Supreme Lord has sharp edges as destructive as the fire of devastation at the end of the millennium. As a blazing fire burns dry grass to ashes with the assistance of the breeze, may that Sudarśana cakra burn our enemies to ashes.
So if anyone wants to call me a demon and demonize me be my guest my faith is in Krsna that carries the Sudarshan Chakra
Sri Sudarshana Kavaca
om namo bhagavate bhoh bhoh sudarshana dushta daridryam duritam hana hana jahi jahi papam matha matha samrogyam kuru kuru thah thah hrim him hram
om sahasraram hum phat svaha
om trilokya bhayam karta tvam ajnaya janardana sarva-dukhani rakshamsi kshayam nayaca satvaram
om namo bhagavate maha-sudarshanaya maho-graya maha-cakraya maha-mantra maha-dhira maha-tejah bhayankaraya
sarva-shatrun grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha para m antran grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha para shaktih grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha mudhan grihan grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha daitya danava rakshasan grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha dakini shakini vetaladina grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha gandharva yaksha raksha bhuta preta pishaca brahma-rakshasadin grasha grasha bhaksha bhaksha
: I offer my respectful obeisances to the Supreme Lord. O Sudarçana cakra, please destroy the poverty and distress of those who have not committed offenses. Please kill the sinful. Please give the sinful terrible diseases. I offer my respectful obeisances to You, the thousand spoked one, for You instill fear in the three worlds. O Lord Janärdana, please quickly order the destruction of all miseries and demons. I offer my respectful obeisances to the most eminent Sudarsana cakra, who is most fierce and terrifying. O great of , O most grave one, O most powerful one, please devour all our enemies. Please consume all the powerful mantras along with all the powerful energies. Please consume the foolish as well as their servants. Consume and devour the Daityas, Dänavas, Räkñasasa, Däkin , Säkinëés, Vetälas and others. Please also consume the Gandharvas, Yaksas, ghosts, evil spirits, Pisäcas, and the Brahma-räksasas
No I am not the demon though I have been demonized so many times .
If in Goloka everything is automatically prasadam when you offer it to Krsna makes sense, but everything even in Goloka Vrindavana is offered to Krsna.Vidurani the wife of Vidura, did not chant Gayatri Mantras and 3 pranam mantras, she just offered Krsna bananas when Krsna visited Viduras house and in her ecstasy she fed Krsna the Banana peel and threw the bananas away until Vidura stopped her and Krsna was eating the peels.In her case she did not have to offer ,Sabari offered Lord Ramachandra fruits eaten by her first to see if these fruits where ripa .So Srila Rupa Goswami has given us some prayers in Padayavali for offering prasadam ,there is devotional service in the 3 modes of nature and then there is pure devotional service:
yä prétir vidurärpite madhu-ripo kunty-arpite yädåçé
yä govardhana-mürdhni yä ca påthuke stanye yaçodärpite
bhäradväja-samarpite çabarikä-datte ‘dhare yoñitäà
yä vä te muni-bhäminé-vinihite ‘nne ‘träpi täm arpaya
ya—which; pritiù—pleasure; visura—by Vidura; arpite—offered; madhu—of the Madhu demon; ripo—O enemy; kunti—by Kunti-devi; arpite—offered; yadåçi—like which; ya—which; govardhana—of Govardhana Hill; murdhni—on the summit; ya—which; ca—also; prthuke—in the chipped rice; stanye—in the breast-milk; yasoda—by Yasoda-devi; arpite—offered; savarika—by Sabarika; datte—presentede; adhare—in the lips; yositam—of the gopés; ya—which; va—or; te—of You; muni—of the sages; bhamini—by the wives; vinihite—presented; anne—in the foods; atra—here; api—also; tam—that; arpaya—please place.
O Lord Madhusüdana, as You enjoyed the meal offered by Vidura, the foods presented by Kunté, Your lunch on the peak of Govardhana Hill, the chipped rice of Sudämä Brähmaëa, the breast-milk offered by Mother Yaçodä, the meal offered by Bharadväja Muni, the food offered by Sabarikä, the many dishes presented by the wives of the brähmaëas, as well as the taste of the gopés’ lips, I hope the offering of food I now place before You You will enjoy in the same way.
—author unknown
sammuçëan navanétam antika-maëi-stambhe sva-bimbodgamaà
dåñövä mugdhatayä kumäram aparaà saïcintayan çaìkayä
man-mitraà hi bhavän mayätra bhavato bhägaù samaù kalpito
mä mäà sücaya sücayety anunayan bälo hariù pätu vaù
sammuçëan—stealing; navanétam—butter; antika—nearby; maëi—jewelled; stambhe—in a pillar; sva—own; bimba—in the reflection; udgamam—manifested; dåñövä—seeing; mugdhatayä—with bewilderment; kumäram—child; aparam—another; saïcintaya—thinking; çaìkayä—with apprehension; mat—My; mitram—friend; hi—indeed; bhavän—You are; mayä—with Me; atra—here; bhavataù—of You; bhägaù—a share; samaù—equal; kalpitaù—will be; mä—do not; mäm—Me; sücaya—reveal; sücaya—reveal; iti—thus; anunayan—appeasing; bälaù—the child; hariù—Kåñëa; pätu—may protect; vaù—you all.
As child Hari was stealing butter He noticed His own reflection in a nearby jeweled column. Thinking this to be another boy, He became frightened and begged: “You are My friend. I will share this butter with You. Please don’t tell on Me! Don’t tell on Me!” May child Hari protect you all.
—author unknownMay be an image of 2 people


I worship naughty Krsna
kva yäsi nanu caurike pramuñitaà sphuöaà dåçyate
dvitéyam iha mämakaà vahasi kaïcuke kaëòukam
tyajati nava-gopikä-yugaà nimathnan baläl
lasat-pulaka-maëòale jayati gokule keçavaù
kva—where?; yasi—are you going; nanu—is it no?; caurike—O thief; pramusitam—the theft; sphutam—clearly; dåçyate—is seen; dvitiyam—two; iha—here; mamakam—My; vahasi—you carry; kaïcuke—in your bodice; kandukam—balls; tyaja—give them up; iti—thus; nava—of the young; gopéka—gopé; kuca—of breasts; yugam—the pair; nimathnan—attacking; balat—forcibly; lasat—manifesting; pulaka—of hairs standing up in ecstasy; mandalaù—the multitude; jayati—all glories; gokule—in Gokula; kesavaù—to Lord Kåñëa.
Child Keçava said to a young gopé: “Thief, where are you going? Have I not caught you stealing? Under your bodice you are hiding My two toy balls! Give them up!” His bodily hairs standing erect with joy, He violently attacked that young gopé’s breasts to retrieve His toy balls. All glories to Lord Keçava, who enjoyed these extraordinary pastimes in Gokula Village.
—Çré Dépaka

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