accepting a Guru by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura and my comments

[Paramananda das]

When to reject a Guru

I realized many years ago Harikesa was dishonest, he had no Sadhana, he was materialistic, he told the GBC many times he wanted to get married though he was a sannyasi , he left with millions of dollars stolen from ISKCON and married his own female disciple ,he was her third husband, I told the GBC in 1996 Harikesa would fall down, they were to ignorant to listen to my good advise, I also knew since 1979 Harikesa was dishonest with money , and the selling of his Rasa albums was not allowed by Srila Prabhupada who said only his books should be sold, there are so many reasons ,one should reject a bogus Guru..here is from Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakuras Jaiva Dharma .I also wrote Harikesa in 1989 I know you are are lazy and attached to women ,power false prestige and especially money and thus in ISKCON you have a nickname Heavy Cash Swami ,thus you are not fit to be my Guru .You never even go out one day to distribute Srila Prabhupadas books , you are a total disgrace to Srila Prabhupada and ISKCON
Accepting A Guru
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura
Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura
From Rays of The Harmonist, Tirobhava Edition
by Śrīla Saccidānanda Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura
Excerpt from Śrī Jaiva-dharma, Chapter Twenty
Vijaya: Prabhu, please give us some detailed instructions regarding accepting shelter at the lotus feet of a spiritual master (śrī-guru-pādāśraya).
Bābājī: An aspiring disciple should first attain the eligibility (adhikāra) to perform one-pointed devotional service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa (ananya-kṛṣṇa-bhakti). He should learn the essential truths about Śrī Kṛṣṇa (kṛṣṇa-tattva) from a genuine guru by taking shelter at that guru’s feet.
The living entity only attains the qualification (adhikāra) for kṛṣṇa-bhakti when he develops śraddhā. This śraddhā is that firm faith that is awakened in relation to Śrī Hari as a result of hearing hari-kathā from the lips of pure saints, or sādhus. Association with saints is obtained by the influence of spiritual merits (sukṛti) accrued in previous births. Along with śraddhā, the mood of surrender (śaraṇāgati) will also appear to some extent.1
1 This śaraṇāgati is the symptom of śraddhā, hence one can understand the development of one’s pāramārthika-śraddhā – the absolute, or transcendental form of faith – by the extent to which one has developed śaraṇāgati.
Śraddhā (firm faith) and śaraṇāgati (surrender) are almost the same principle (tattva). To be able to perform kṛṣṇa-bhakti is certainly the topmost attainment in this world. Therefore, the only person eligible for ananyā-bhakti (one-pointed devotion) is he who has developed strong faith in these convictions: “I will perform any activity favourable to kṛṣṇa-bhakti as my duty and abandon any activity unfavourable to it; Kṛṣṇa is my sole protector and I accept Him as my exclusive maintainer; I am extremely wretched and destitute, and my independent desire is not beneficial for me, whereas exclusively following Kṛṣṇa’s desire is beneficial for me in every way.”
When the jīva attains this qualification, he becomes anxious to hear instructions on bhakti, and upon finding sad-guru (a bona fide spiritual master), he accepts shelter at his lotus feet. That is to say, he becomes the disciple of such a guru and accepts instructions (śikṣā) on bhakti from him.
tad-vijñānārthaṁ sa gurum evābhigacchet
samit-pāniḥ śrotriyaṁ brahma-niṣṭham
Muṇḍaka Upaniṣad (1.2.12)
In order to obtain knowledge of the Supreme Absolute Reality – Śrī Bhagavān (bhagavad-vastu) – the sincere soul must approach a sad-guru, carrying firewood for sacrifice in his hands. In other words, he must approach sad-guru with transcendental faith in his heart, and surrender to him in every respect – with body, mind and words – and with all the humility at his command. The qualification of a bona fide guru is that he is well-versed in the Vedas, has realized the Absolute Truth (brahma-jñāna) and is exclusively devoted to the service of Bhagavān.
ācāryavān puruṣo veda
Chāndogya Upaniṣad (6.14.2)
He who takes shelter of bona fide guru, that is, a guru whose conduct is proper, comes to know that Parabrahman.
The characteristics and symptoms of a bona fide spiritual master (sad-guru) and a bona fide disciple (sat-śiṣya) are given in detail in Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (1.23–64). In essence, only a person with pure character and firm faith (śraddhā) is qualified to become a disciple, and only that person who is endowed with unalloyed bhakti, who knows the science of devotional service (bhakti-tattva-vit), and who is of spotless character, simple, without greed, free from the influence of māyāvāda philosophys and expert in all devotional activities is genuinely qualified to be guru.
A brāhmaṇa who is adorned with these qualities and who is honoured by the whole society can be guru to people from any of the other varṇas, or castes. If there is no such brāhmaṇa, one can become the disciple of a guru who is situated in a higher varṇa than himself. But the principal import of these regulations is that, leaving all considerations of varṇāśrama* aside, wherever a sincere soul finds a person who knows kṛṣṇa-tattva, he can accept him as his guru.
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*Varṇas, or occupational divisions, include brāhmaṇas (the priestly class), kṣatriyas (administrators and warriors), vaiśyas (farmers and tradesmen) and śūdras (artisans). Āśramas, or stages of life, include brahmacārī (celibate student), gṛhasta (matrimony), vānaprastha (retirement) and sannyāsa (the renounced order).
It may be that the above-mentioned qualities are found in a person born in a brāhmaṇa family, but those who carry pride in being born into a higher varṇa in the dynasty of Āryans can offer no more than conveniences to a person who accepts him as his guru. Only a genuine devotee is a guru in truth.
Śāstra provides the rules by which the guru and the disciple are to mutually examine each other, as well as the time required for this examination period. The purport is that the guru will bestow his mercy upon the disciple only when he sees that the disciple is qualified and when the disciple has developed genuine faith in him, understanding him to be a pure devotee (śuddha-bhakta).
There are two kinds of guru: the dīkṣā-guru, or initiating spiritual master who gives sacred mantras to the disciple, and the śikṣā-guru, or the instructing spiritual master. One has to accept mantra initiation (dīkṣā) as well as instruction (śikṣā) regarding the process of arcana (deity worship) from the dīkṣā-guru. There is one dīkṣā-guru, but there can be several śikṣā-gurus. The dīkṣā-guru is also competent to give instructions as śikṣā-guru.
Vijaya: The dīkṣā-guru is not to be rejected, but if he is incompetent to give sat-śikṣā, how can he actually be a śikṣā-guru?
Bābājī: Before accepting a guru, one should examine him to see that he is expert in his understanding of the tattva (fundamental principles regarding the Absolute Truth) spoken of in the Vedas and that he has realized the Supreme Absolute Reality (para-tattva). If so, then he will certainly be capable of giving comprehensive instructions on all tattvas. Normally, there is no question of giving up the dīkṣā-guru.
A guru should be abandoned, however, if either of these two circumstances prevail:
(1) The disciple may have accepted the guru without having first examined the guru’s knowledge of tattva or whether or not the guru’s qualities are befitting a Vaiṣṇava, or without carefully observing the guru’s other qualifications. Later, however, he may experience that the guru is unable to help him spiritually. One who is in this situation should give up that guru. Many passages in śāstra provide evidence of this:
yo vyakti nyāya-rahitam anyāyena śṛṇoti yaḥ
tāv ubhau narakaṁ ghoraṁ vrajataḥ kālam akṣayam
Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (1.62)
Both he who poses as an ācārya but who performs an act of injustice – that is, who gives instructions that are opposed to the sattvata-śāstras (scriptures that elucidate pure bhakti) – and the disciple who mistakenly listens to him will reside in a terrible hell for an unlimited period of time.
guror apy avaliptasya kāryākāryam ajānataḥ
utpatha-pratipannasya parityāgo vidhīyate
Mahābhārata Udyoga-parva (179.25)
and Nārada-paṣcarātra (1.10.20)
It is indeed obligatory to reject a guru who does not know what is appropriate for the disciple and what is not, and who one finds to be on the wrong path, either because of bad association or because he is antagonistic to the Vaiṣṇavas.
avaiṣṇavopadiṣṭena mantreṇa nirayaṁ vrajet
punaś ca vidhinā samyag grāhayed vaiṣṇavād guroḥ
Hari-bhakti-vilāsa (4.144)
One goes to hell if he accepts mantras from a guru who is not a Vaiṣṇava – that is, from one who associates with women and who is devoid of kṛṣṇa-bhakti. If one has accepted mantras from such a false guru, according to the regulations of śāstra, one should receive the mantras again from a bona fide Vaiṣṇava guru.
(2) One’s guru may be rejected if, due to the influence of bad association (asat-saṅga), he became a māyāvādī or an antagonist to the Vaiṣṇavas, even if he was a Vaiṣṇava when the disciple accepted him as his guru and was well-versed in the principles of spiritual truth (tattva).
It is actually one’s duty to give up such a guru. However, if one has accepted a guru who is neither a māyāvādī, antagonistic to the Vaiṣṇavas nor attached to sinful activities, it is inappropriate to reject him simply because his spiritual knowledge is meagre. One should still respect him as guru, and with his permission, one should go to another exalted Vaiṣṇava who is well-versed in knowledge of spiritual truth and take instruction (śikṣā) from him, serving him with one’s full capacity.
Vijaya: Please tell us about accepting the kṛṣṇa-mantra (kṛṣṇa-dīkṣā) and also about śikṣā, or receiving instructions regarding bhajana and instructions regarding serving those mantras.
Bābājī: While accepting śikṣā from śrī gurudeva on the process of deity worship (arcana) and on pure devotional service to the Lord, one should in a mood of simplicity, perform service to Śrī Kṛṣṇa (kṛṣṇa-sevā) but also earnestly cultivate uninterrupted performance of pure spiritual service fully abiding in, conscientious of, and devoted to the pleasure and welfare of Kṛṣṇa (kṛṣṇa-anuśīlanam).
Later, we will separately discuss the limbs of arcana. It is most essential to receive śrī gurudeva’s instructions on one’s relationship with Kṛṣṇa (sambandha-jñāna), the process of devotional service (abhidheya-jñāna), and the ultimate goal (prayojana-jñāna).
Vijaya: What does it mean to perform guru-sevā with faith?
Bābājī: One should not consider śrī gurudeva to be a mortal man, or an ordinary jīva. Rather, one should understand him to be the embodiment of all the demigods (sarva-deva-maya). One should never disobey him, and one should always know him to be a transcendental being (vaikuṇṭha-tattva).
Note: from other teachings of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura it is very clear one should not become a disciple unless one is chanting 64 rounds daily of the Mahamantra what to speak of being a Guru, according to Lord Caitanya as recorded in Caitanya Bhagavad unless and until one chants 64 rounds daily one remains Fallen Patitta, we see thus after Jagai and Madhais deliverance they chanted 120 rounds daily.My Diksa Guru Srila Narayana Maharaja used to say unless you chant 64 rounds daily you are not fit to be my disciple ,you ARE NOT MY DISCIPLE ,,he stated this at Jalakara Prabhus house in 2000 Alachua Florida
In Shri Chaitanya-bhagavata, Antya Khanda 9.121-122, Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu instructed everyone on whose worship and service He will accept:
(121) prabhu bale,-"jana, 'lakshesvara' bali kare?
prati-dina laksha-nama ye grahana kare"
"Do you know who is a laksesvara? He is someone who chants one laksa or 100,000 holy names (64 rounds of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra) everyday."
Purport by Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
shri gaurasundera balibena-"jini pratidina laksha-nama grahana karibena, tanharai grihe bhagavan sevita hana.
Shri Gaurasundera spoke as follows-"The Supreme Personality of Godhead accepts service only in the home of those who chant one hundred thousand names daily.
"bhagavan tanharai nikate bhoga-dravyadi grahana karena.
"The Lord accepts bhoga (foodstuffs) and other ingredients only from such personalities.
"jini laksha-nama grahana karena na, tahara nikate haite bhagavan naivedya svikara-dvara seva-saubhagya pradana karena na.
"Those who don't chant 100,000 names (64 rounds) daily, are never awarded the great fortune of rendering service to the Lord by offering Him naivedya (bhoga). This is because the Lord never accepts (svikara) their offerings.
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
"bhagavad-bhakta matrei pratyaha laksha-nama grahana karibena natuva vividha visaye asakta haiya bhagavad-seva karite asamartha haibena."
The Lord continued-"Those who consider themselves devotees of the Lord must compulsorily chant 100,000 names of Krishna everyday otherwise they will gradually but surely become attached to varieties of sense-objects and thus become incapable to rendering any kind of service to the Lord."
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
tajjanyai shri chaitanyadevera ashrita sakalai nyuna kalpe laksha-nama grahana kariya thakena. natuva gaurasunderera udeshya pradatta naivedya tini grahana karibena na.
(Shrila Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada continues) "Therefore all the devotees who have taken shelter of Lord Chaitanyadeva perform the chanting of a minimum of 100,000 names of Krishna daily as their first and primary duty. Because they know that if they don't do so then Lord Gaurasundera will never accept the very bhoga (naivedya) which they cook for Him daily.
(122) "se janera nama ami bali 'lakshesvara'
tatha bhiksha amara, na yai anya ghara."
"Lord Gauranga continued-I call such a person a laksheshvara. I only accept meals in such a person's house. I never go anywhere else."
Purport by Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
shri chaitanya bhaktagana abhaktera sahita sambhashana karena na. jini bhaktivyatita karma, jnana o anyabhilashara kathaya pradatta tahara sahita bandhutva karibe na.
"The devotees of Lord Shri Chaitanya never talk with such non-devotees. They never do friendship with those who are engaged in the cultivation of karma, jnana or other desires which are devoid of bhakti.
pratyah laksha-nama grahana na karile patita vyaktiganera visaya-bhoga pravritti vriddhi paya, takhana ara tahara shri gaurasunderarera seva karite pare na.
"Those who don't accept this vow of chanting 100,000 names daily, fall down even more although they were fallen in the first place (due to the contamination of Kali-yuga). Thus their propensity for enjoying the senses and sense-objects continually and steadily increases and ultimately they are not able to render any kind of service even to the most merciful Lord Gaurasundera.
lakshesvara vyatita gaura-bhaktira adarsa gaudiyajana kehai svikara karena na.
"This is the precise reason why the real Gaudiya-bhaktas do not accept any other ideal (adarsa) in Gaura-bhakti or Krishna-bhakti except the process of chanting 100,000 names of the maha-mantra daily.
Shrila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada:
adhapatita va adhapete gana eka-matra bhajana-sabda-vacya shri-nama-bhajane vimukhata-vasata laksha-nama grahana karibara parivarte anya bhajanera chalana korena, taddvara tahadera kona mangala haya na.
"Those spiritual aspirants who are already fallen or will fall down from spiritual life in the future are averse to this sole means of deliverance called nama-bhajana, which is the worship of the sound incarnation of God in the form of chanting 100,000 names of the the Holy Names daily. Coming under the sway of their averseness to chant laksha-nama daily, they duplicitously invent (chalana) other means of devotional service (bhajana) to justify their not chanting 100,000 names daily but it is to be clearly understood that by this action they will not achieve anything auspicious (mangala) in their spiritual life."
If your Guru is teaching apasiddhanta you must also reject him if he is not chanting 64 rounds you should reject him ,if you are not chanting 64 rounds ,you should be ashamed of yourself ,you are not up to standard it is time you grow up .Srila Narayana Maharaja said if you are not chanting 64 rounds get to it soon , at least do 32 rounds if you are very fallen if you can not even chant this much or minimum 25 rounds then you should go drown yourself in a lake ..he was just chasing devotees for not chanting 64 rounds , because most of his disciples were weak and they also were not chanting 64 rounds daily ..now they just grow a beard like him and imitiate him but they will never take his instructions to heart thus I have not a single sincere godbrother and godsiter in Srila Narayana Maharaja camp they do not chant 64 rounds daily , only a few .In some Gaudiya Maths they chant 4 rounds daily so at least Srila Prabhupada introduced 16 rounds because Srila Prabhupada said something is better than nothing