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some socalled scholars in the line of Srila Madhavacarya has endorsed the Ritvik system and given support to the Ritviks in Bangalore

some socalled scholars in the line of Srila Madhavacarya has endorsed the Ritvik system and given support to the Ritviks in Bangalore :
1. Sri Bannanje Govindacarya: "You have a temple of Prabhupada, and before Prabhupada himself, no others can give diksha and these people provide name and mala. The diksha should be in the presence of Prabhupada's vigraha. That will be better. That would be better. There will be no problem. Just to avoid problems, see so many gurus, they will leave peeta (the sacred seat), they are falling down. Just to avoid this, you take initiation before Prabhupada's vigraha."
2. HH Rangapriya Swami: "By this system we do not have to fear that the parampara may stop. The rtviks belong to his parampara. The new disciples also belong to his parampara. Who ever follows his instructions also belong to his parampara. His books will represent him; his peeta (the sacred seat) will represent him; his sandals will represent him; his murtis will represent him."
3. Lakshmi Tatachar: "Again I have to stress that the letter makes it amply clear that the disciples thus initiated by the representatives of Srila Prabhupada are only the disciples of Srila Prabhupada only, not of the representatives. I also want to confirm that this system can continue perpetually even in the physical absence of HH Srila Prabhupadaji as it has continued in Ramanujas tradition as any person initiated by any acharya has dasyanama like Lakshmittathacharya Ramanuja Dasa though Ramanuja passed away long ago.
Well this is not what Srila Prabhupada set up , he wanted some of his disciples to give Diksa and they in turn later becomes diksa Gurus also .My Gurudeva Srila Narayana Maharaja did not appoint any successors but stated qualified disciples of his may give diksa.
So in ISKCON same thing Srila Prabhupada did not want the ritvik system to continue beyond his being on Earth physically .Sri Ramanujacarya took transcendental diksa from Srila Yamunacarya though he actually never met him in person ,that can not be imitated also .But Sri Ramanujacarya knew what the three close fingers on the dead body of Yamunacarya stood for and revealed the desires of his Gurudeva.Sri Ramanujacarya is the incarnation of Lord Ananta .So he is already God and does not need diksa to enlighten him .But the Supreme Lord shows us by His example to take a Guru thus Krsna

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Comment by Paramananda das on December 11, 2021 at 1:38pm

some socalled scholars in the line of Srila Madhavacarya has endorsed the Ritvik system and given support to the Ritviks in Bangalore :
1. Sri Bannanje Govindacarya: "You have a temple of Prabhupada, and before Prabhupada himself, no others can give diksha and these people provide name and mala. The diksha should be in the presence of Prabhupada's vigraha. That will be better. That would be better. There will be no problem. Just to avoid problems, see so many gurus, they will leave peeta (the sacred seat), they are falling down. Just to avoid this, you take initiation before Prabhupada's vigraha."
2. HH Rangapriya Swami: "By this system we do not have to fear that the parampara may stop. The rtviks belong to his parampara. The new disciples also belong to his parampara. Who ever follows his instructions also belong to his parampara. His books will represent him; his peeta (the sacred seat) will represent him; his sandals will represent him; his murtis will represent him."
3. Lakshmi Tatachar: "Again I have to stress that the letter makes it amply clear that the disciples thus initiated by the representatives of Srila Prabhupada are only the disciples of Srila Prabhupada only, not of the representatives. I also want to confirm that this system can continue perpetually even in the physical absence of HH Srila Prabhupadaji as it has continued in Ramanujas tradition as any person initiated by any acharya has dasyanama like Lakshmittathacharya Ramanuja Dasa though Ramanuja passed away long ago.
Well this is not what Srila Prabhupada set up , he wanted some of his disciples to give Diksa and they in turn later becomes diksa Gurus also .My Gurudeva Srila Narayana Maharaja did not appoint any successors but stated qualified disciples of his may give diksa.
So in ISKCON same thing Srila Prabhupada did not want the ritvik system to continue beyond his being on Earth physically .Sri Ramanujacarya took transcendental diksa from Srila Yamunacarya though he actually never met him in person ,that can not be imitated also .But Sri Ramanujacarya knew what the three close fingers on the dead body of Yamunacarya stood for and revealed the desires of his Gurudeva.Sri Ramanujacarya is the incarnation of Lord Ananta .So he is already God and does not need diksa to enlighten him .But the Supreme Lord shows us by His example to take a Guru thus Krsna and Lord Ramachandra and and Lord Caitanya all accepted Gurus to show no one is exempt, we are not like Ekalavya that just worshipped a murti of a Guru without permission..but we have the blessings to worship Srila Prabhupada ,but for Diksa we need look for a bonafide Diksa Guru as explained by Srila PRabhupada in Nectar of Instruction, he should not be a neophyte so-called Ritvik but an uttama Adhikari

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